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  •  You're Not Most Voters. Numbers Don't Lie (3+ / 0-)
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    Obama's hard election and poll numbers prove he's drawing larger crowds and larger numbers of voters.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 09:42:57 AM PST

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    •  I think we're forgetting the timing (5+ / 0-)

      of the elections.  In 2004, the war was unpopular, but nowhere near as unpopular as today.  In 2004, opinion polls indicated that the public - by some huge gigantic leap of imagination - trusted Republicans more on national security issues.  In 2004, Bush wasn't exactly popular, but he wasn't at 24%, either.  In 2004, the Republicans weren't having a bloody battle to see who their nominee would be.

      In 2004, what the Democratic voters wanted more than anything - and they let this suppress their innate desire for transformational change - was to beat Bush.  John Kerry religiously argued "electability" and Democratic voters, afraid that Dean was too outspoken to be electable, went with Kerry.  Then they were taught a spanking lesson in the art of politics - Mr. Electability could not get... well, elected.  That's when we, as a party, started to focus on transformation rather than piecemeal elections.

      So Dean and Obama came along in different times.  Only four years apart, to be sure, but in vastly different climate.  Obama is coming on after Democrats had time to decide that they made the wrong decision back in 2004, and they aren't about to make the same mistake again and hand the party over to the status quo.

      "The Power to change this party, and the power to change this country is in your hands, not mine." - Gov. Howard Dean, MD

      by deaniac83 on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 10:05:42 AM PST

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