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  •  That's very important to remember (15+ / 0-)

    when talking about this with the general population.  There are a lot of people who won't be bothered by the idea that the suggestion that the US is a Christian nation.  In fact, there are far too many who will agree wholeheartedly.

    Some of these people might be persuaded that a secular government is better if they are asked to think about how quickly religious governments usually devolve into legislating morality and sanctioning discrimination that leads to social unrest.

    •  I can usually shut this down fast with (7+ / 0-)

      my wingnut friends: "visualize the US as a Mormon nation." Can substitute name of the sect or persuasion most likely to induce mouthfrothing.

      Somehow these dimwits never reach the obvious, logical conclusion: it's probably not going to be your sect that ends up in control.

      Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid.
      --Basil King, Canadian novelist, 1859-1928

      by dallasdave on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 11:19:18 AM PST

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    •  Statistically, the USA is a Christian nation (4+ / 0-)
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      but the Federal Government is not. The Federal Government is neutral in religion, according to our constituttion, and since the 14th Amendment so are the states.

      The distinction between the Nation and the State is an important on to make, and in fact it's vital to democracy.

      •  I think (1+ / 0-)
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        the generally accepted notion of 'religion' nation = said nation has a state religion.  ie, Israel IS a Jewish Nation.

        Simply having the majority of your populace be a specific religion doesn't automatically make you a 'whatever' nation.

        Plus, I know a ton of 'Christians' who will SAY they're Christian but generally have far less actual knowledge of the Bible than many pagans, don't attend services other than weddings/funerals, and so on.

        I call it religious laziness.  Some ancestor somewhere was a Christian, so everybody down the family tree then identifies themselves as such whether or not they have any real knowledge of scripture or actual belief.

        Got a problem with my posts? Email me, and let's resolve it.

        by drbloodaxe on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 02:36:45 PM PST

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      •  Excellent insight! (1+ / 0-)
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        That seems like a very handy way to present it.  I often wonder how to handle the "Christian nation" idea which, as you say, is factually correct in a way.  This is a great distinction!

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