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  •  I don't know (2+ / 0-)
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    shii, Debbie in ME

    I watched Colbert/Stewart the day they returned. I think that both of them, being forced back to the set, were trying to make their viewers aware of the strike and what was happening.

    Beyond this, I don't think our supporters should cross that picket line. But for them to cross it in order to get their own message out... that doesn't seem bad to me. I know that when my family walked the picket lines, we always appreciated the media coming out to film it.

    In this case, part of the problem is that part of the media (in the case of our "fake news" shows) is what's on strike here. So it's a catch 22... either you reduce your ability to get your message out by respecting the picket line, or you cross the picket line in violation of principle to get your message out.

    I think Seeber, at least, made a good decision. They came on, and discussed the strike favorably. Stewart put in two jabs at Viacom, Comedy Central's parent.

    This is tough for me. But as a stalwart labor supporter (who's actually wearing SEIU purple right now), I think they did the right thing. Stewart and Colbert are both making a point to back the writers and bash the industry. So despite crossing the line, they were on friendly turf.

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    by Eddie in ME on Wed Jan 09, 2008 at 07:24:29 AM PST

    •  No... (1+ / 0-)
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      They crossed--and that's wrong. Period. And, in particular, the WGA vehemently objected to Seeber's action. It really is the WGA that makes the calls--not someone else coming up with a justification for doing because the road is quite slippery when you do that.

      •  no free passes (0+ / 0-)

        It's as if progressives are giving a pass to Colbert and Stewart because we love them.  On other threads, I've called them what they are, SCABS and have watched as other comments about watching them and loving them get uprated.  

        No one seems to want to take a stand and call their actions as demoralizing and disgusting as they are.  There is no middle road on this; no gray area at all.  As I said yesterday on another thread,

        they risk no more than any other worker

        .  They aren't forced to return to work, they made a choice.  A very bad choice.

    •  if you're in SEIU (0+ / 0-)

      then how to you react act workers who return to the job in the middle of a strike?  Who, to do so, cross picket lines?  

      We create gray areas for Colbert and Stewart because we've placed them on a pedestal just like the way so many did for Joe Montana during the NFL strike.  There is no difference between the two, no matter how hard you and others try to rationalize or give comfort to the plight of Colbert or Stewart.  

      In the end, there's no gray area here.  It's not a catch 22.  They did what was in their best interest, not their brothers and sisters in the WGA.  

      •  They are not typical workers (1+ / 0-)
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        Debbie in ME

        They are under contract, and face lawsuits if they don't return. A typical striker does not get sued and is not under contract. That is the difference between the two.

        I have trouble calling someone a scab when they're being dragged back to work kicking and screaming, and are continuing to back the union and get its message out from within. It just isn't the same. It isn't like the guy on the picket line who's just going back for the money.

        It's troubling, for me. I don't stand firmly in their camp, I just lean in it. It goes against my grain as a union supporter, but at the same time, yeah- there's grey area being created. But in my case, it's due to them supporting vocally from within, not because they're progressives.

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        by Eddie in ME on Wed Jan 09, 2008 at 09:45:43 AM PST

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        •  NFL strike (0+ / 0-)

          The reason I use the NFL as an example when talking about WGA is that players are also under contract and face fines or law suits when they don't show up to work.  Like the guys who try to miss a game because thier wife is in labor or Dad just died and the owners threaten them with legal action and fines.  Which is also why I equate Stewarts and Colbert's actions to the same as that of Montana.  When it came right down to it, Letterman did the right thing with his company and negotiated.  Seth MacFarlane walked away from his deal with Fox and they produced Family guy with out him.  

          It was a choice these men made.  And although I appreciate their running their mouths in support of the strikers, I'd have way preferred their taking a stand and not showing up to work on Monday.  Kind of like throwing yourself in front of a bus the way boomer did in 1987.

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