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View Diary: My Day at the NH Polls and the Tsunami of Women Voters (156 comments)

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  •  It's OK. I couldn't tell what you meant. (0+ / 0-)

    Well, Hillary or any woman elected into an important position is certainly a step in that direction since it does help to change perceptions.  Still, the fact that she almost certainly would not be running for president  right now if she had not married Bill Clinton tends to mar the total equality theme for me.  Not that there is anything wrong with it, but it's not quite the same thing as earning it totally on your own when you get to claim the mantle of experience because you were the First Lady for 8 years.  As a woman, this doesn't sit incredibly well with me.  I don't feel like I want to rebel against it, but you know, I'll just let it lie and say I think she'd probably make a pretty good president if she gets elected.  I'll be more excited when it is someone who is unambiguously a "self-made woman."  Someday.

    •  We don't know where she would have been (1+ / 0-)
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      without Bill.  Maybe she would have beaten Bush in 2000.

      Should she, a smart, innovative, caring woman being penalized because of her pedigree?

      Give 'em Hill! The only woman who will slap the rethugs silly. The woman I trust to do right by the American people.

      by NewHampster on Wed Jan 09, 2008 at 08:06:52 PM PST

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      •  No, but it renders her (1+ / 0-)
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        more ambiguous as a feminist icon.  There is no way around it.  It's just part of what happens when you marry one of the most brilliant political talents of the latter half of the century who becomes a two-term president and then you yourself decide to start running for office and, eventually, the presidency.  No one is going to feel that you've totally done it on your own.  It's reality.

        And, of course, you're right that we don't know where she would have been, but I highly doubt it is where she is today.  She's very bright, but she is by no means a natural talent like Bill is.  She's had to work her ass off, and she's done remarkably well.

    •  She's a self-made as anyone else. I really can (3+ / 0-)
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      not understand you.  Would anyone say Elizabeth Edwards or Michelle Obama were not self-made?  

      Hillary is already changing gender roles in this country and she's not even President. Chris Matthews found himself realizing how awkward it was that there were no female analysts on his show the night of the big win to try to explain the gender break toward hillary, which I had earlier noticed on CNN.  I was there in Salem for the "iron my shirt" crew, and when Hillary called out the "remnants of sexism" you could have heard a pin drop.  When she admonished the men that the first female US president would be a significant change for all the daughters in the US and around the world she got a standing ovation.  Perhaps you had to be there, but her run is significant and well earned.

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