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  •  Honestly, I do think it was entrapment (1+ / 0-)
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    Jay Elias

    at the least. I don't like the way the police handled this at all. It's an insane use of police resources, IMO--though I do think they needed to do something about this bathroom--there is a significant difference between solicitation in a gay bar and in a public restroom in an airport, including the fact that children might be in that restroom. I'd think having the restroom on the police's security or regular beat would be as effective. But that's sort of beside the point.

    Because you still come back to the fact that he did plead guilty. Set aside whatever arguments you might have about the justification for the charges, he pleaded guilty. He's a lawyer, for chrissakes.

    •  FWIW... (0+ / 0-)

      ...of course you are right about the guilty plea.  Although if lawyers and lawmakers don't understand what that means, it would explain a lot about our Congress.

      But I think getting all Helen Lovejoy about the risk to children is a bit much.  This was non-verbal solicitation.  Would you or I have understood it, much less a child?  Again, it seems to me that we have laws preventing actual sexual activity in public places.

      And like I said, I think it only hurts Craig to have us agree that this shouldn't be a crime.

      The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. ~ H.L. Mencken

      by Jay Elias on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 04:38:05 PM PST

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      •  Um (1+ / 0-)
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        I don't think it's just toe-tapping and solicitation that had been going on in that airport. Think about it. You're in the security area of the airport, between flights. Nobody's leaving the bathroom if they end up finding a hookup--where else would they go? The whole reason they've staked out that airport is because it was being used for sex. So the cops are left with waiting for someone to break that law by actually having public sex (maybe even a creepier law enforcement scenario) or nabbing for solicitation. I don't like the method, but some level of enforcement is completely justifiable.

        •  I don't think so either... (0+ / 0-)

          ...but this is a simple problem to solve.  Send in a uniformed officer every half hour or so.

          The only reason to do it like this is to be able to convict people who might have had sex there.  What is the purpose of that?

          The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. ~ H.L. Mencken

          by Jay Elias on Thu Jan 10, 2008 at 05:15:48 PM PST

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          •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

            regular patrol would do the job. I think this was an effort by the cops to have a big crackdown to get the word out among frequent "travelers." I guess when they landed Craig, the word most definitely got out.

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