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  •  I just don't get this argument (2+ / 0-)
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    dougymi, plf515

    Can you explain precisely how this tarnishes democracy? I'd love to hear an argument that this is bad for democracy that rests on something other than it makes people feel skeezy.

    •  Anti-democratic (0+ / 0-)

      Of course it's anti-democratic, if only because it's cynical, calculating, and looks like something out of the Republican/DLC playbook... Treating an election like a game may work in the short run or even for a while; the Republicans I know have done it and succeeded. It's tempting: I've certainly considered it when Bush ran in 2000--what's a little cheating when so much is at stake, right? When the Republicans and various offended Democrats organized just such a effort against Cynthia McKinney in GA and voted for her inexperienced opponent in the primary and the election (she lasted one term, by the way), I got to see the tactic first-hand. I was all but heckled when I asked for a Democratic ballot in a strange precinct (mine was moved to an unfriendly area just for that election). And yes, it felt sleazy and clubbish in the room: I'll never forget it. Everyone seemed to be snickering, even the election workers.

      Soon after, they took down Max Cleland and put in the moronic Saxby Chambliss. Go figure. I'd rather win fair: I think it's this sort of strategic thinking that gets us in trouble. For it to work, you have to be as crooked as Rove. Are you willing to go that far?

      •  But see, that's the thing - (0+ / 0-)

        this ISN'T cheating. You're conflating being strategic, which this is, with being sleazy and illegal, which this isn't. I also don't think it's a game

        Through a series of decisions, MI dems were stripped of their say in the nomination process (and you can say what you want about our delegates being restored - if they are they'll be restored AFTER the nominee is locked and will have no impact), but because of MIs laws we still have a chance to play a role in the race.

        I voted for Romney this morning - and aside from the usual side effects of voting on a Republican ballot (mild horn growth, desire to rob poor people), I think it was the best way for me to use my voice. Not as a game, not as a joke or as a prank, butto add to the cacophony on the other side.

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