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  •  Yeah, I'm quite sure that the Clintonites (0+ / 0-)
    would have no problem if arms were being twisted for their candidate-- hey, that's effective politics, right? and 'knowing how to win?'-- but they do tend to piss and moan when any institution that they can't control dares to cross them.

    It's one of the more unpleasant things unions do, but it's also exactly the reason Dems seek union endorsements, then look the other way.  GOPers do the same thing with religious institutions; last cycle I visited a friend who works for a megachurch, and she absolutely refused to discuss the election while we were in public in case a random member heard her express support for Kerry.

    And Joan Walsh is so in the tank for Clinton that I'm glad I let my Premium subscription lapse.  I understand that a lot of women of a certain age are feeling desperate about seeing a woman in the WH (I don't think 'seeing' is good enough, but that's another debate), but obvious desperation's no more becoming in politics than in more traditional areas like marriage and childbearing.  Or job-hunting, for that matter.

    "Conservative principles" are marketing props used by the Conservative Movement to achieve political power, not actual beliefs. -Glenn Greenwald

    by latts on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 07:15:47 AM PST

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    •  Here we go again. (1+ / 0-)
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      I understand that a lot of women of a certain age are feeling desperate about seeing a woman in the WH (I don't think 'seeing' is good enough, but that's another debate)

      Thank you so very much for minimizing, sneering at, and generally shitting on the hopes and dreams of over half the population.   Class act, you are. I know the women on this board will really appreciate it, and that will be reflected in the voting booths.  So please, keep it up.

      Ahhhh, I love the smell of competence in the morning! - Hillary '08

      by SaneSoutherner on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 11:30:07 AM PST

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      •  Truth sometimes hurts. (0+ / 0-)

        And some of us are lifelong feminists who would rather face it head-on instead of playing the faux-sisterhood game.

        PS: one reason I almost universally loathe HRC supporters is the constant insult & derision they heap upon many of us who have been fighting feminist battles pretty much since puberty, and often without the access to power that a prominent husband provides.  I can live without that superficial-yet-bullying brand of feminism, thanks.

        "Conservative principles" are marketing props used by the Conservative Movement to achieve political power, not actual beliefs. -Glenn Greenwald

        by latts on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:04:35 PM PST

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