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  •  Of course, the best way to defend against that (1+ / 0-)
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    DaNorr

    Is Obama going out and saying that it's republican BS and that they should support Clinton.

    If they support Obama so much, and if he actively campaigns for Clinton, wouldn't that be more persuasive than GOP BS?

    •  Whats in it for Obama? (0+ / 0-)

      Seriously? Place himself on the opposite side of the community for the Clintons? Please. That would be a disaster for him and would make him exactly the kind of politician hes running against.

      Its not republican BS. Its what everyone I talk to when I get my haircut seems to believe. genie out of the bottle.

      The best thing he could do, if i were advising him, would be to go to red states and do all he can to help Democrats get elected to Congress. As he did in 2006.

      He won't actively campaign for Clinton. I think thats out of the question. What he will do is publicly endorse her and then keep away from her.

      "So, until the day we expire and turn to vapors, me and my capers, will be somewhere stackin plenty papers." - AZ

      by brooklynbadboy on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 05:41:46 PM PST

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      •  He will actively campaign for clinton (1+ / 0-)
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        you can bank it, I think.

        "What's in it for him?"  I guess having a democratic candidate doesn't count?

        •  Look at it from his perspective. (0+ / 0-)

          Youre Barack Obama. You've now got a list of friends all over the country and a huge base of support. You took on the Clintons and kept it close. You lost. What next?

          Well, Clinton faces a tough election. Your home base community isn't feeling her anymore. Your neighbors are telling you all about the dirty tricks they used against you and the things they circulated about you.
          You dont like them and your wife wants this to be over so she can go back to being a normal human being. She doesent like Bill.

          She could win. In which case, you'd still be a Senator who could run for Governor with your reputation intact.
          She could lose, in which case you'd be in prime position to run again should you so choose. If she lost, it wouldnt be Obama's fault. She'd get all the blame.

          But going out and advocating Hillary Clinton would pretty much see to it that he has nothing ahead but a stiff Senate challenge from the left. Win or lose.

          "So, until the day we expire and turn to vapors, me and my capers, will be somewhere stackin plenty papers." - AZ

          by brooklynbadboy on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 05:54:27 PM PST

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          •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

            But going out and advocating Hillary Clinton would pretty much see to it that he has nothing ahead but a stiff Senate challenge from the left. Win or lose.

            And then liberals wonder why the moderates in the party distrust them.

            If the feelings within the party were that strongly anti-Hillary, then she wouldn't be in contention to win the nomination to begin with.  If she wins the nomination, clearly she's supported enough to prevent Obama from getting a primary challenger just by campaigning for her in the general.

            I reject the notion that campaigning for Clinton will be bad for him at all.  And even if it were, It would lower my opinion of him if he took the selfish stance of "well...if she loses then I can run in 2012 when the nation is even MORE fucked after 4 more years with a GOP candidate" than by trying to help her win.

            •  If he becomes a shill for Hillary, (0+ / 0-)

              he's finished.

              Everyone who supported him would be disgusted, and thats a wrap for him.

              You have to understand, Obama supporters, for the most part, dont give a shit about the Democratic party AS A STANDS. They want to reform it to make a real majority party. But he really cant go out and say "i stand for change, but i also strongly support the status quo." Just doesent work.

              Like i said, he can publicly endorse her, and then go work hard for Congressional and Gubernatorial Democrats in red states. Nobody will expect him to become a hillary shill, not even hillary i suspect. He wont say anything negative, but he wont be hugging her on stage either like McCain.

              "So, until the day we expire and turn to vapors, me and my capers, will be somewhere stackin plenty papers." - AZ

              by brooklynbadboy on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 06:06:33 PM PST

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