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  •  My friends, (2+ / 0-)
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    I disagree.

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    by nowheredesign on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:48:11 AM PST

    •  lol! (3+ / 0-)
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      but that giggle said, I do think McCain would clean Clintons clock.  

      Hillary Clinton is turning out to be the Tanya Harding of Politics - Nisleib - Daily Kos Member

      by MadAsHellMaddie on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:49:11 AM PST

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      •  It is a likely scenario, but (0+ / 0-)

        I don't think I should pack it up should he win the GOP nomination.

        Sometimes, work is harder than you'd like it to be; but that is not to say that it should be done.

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        by nowheredesign on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:57:00 AM PST

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        •  "shouldn't," I mean. (0+ / 0-)

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          by nowheredesign on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 09:58:37 AM PST

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        •  well I plan on working to get real progressive (0+ / 0-)

          elected in and cleaning out the old DLC types.  Nothing will change until we remove the same old game pieces.

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          by MadAsHellMaddie on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:04:49 AM PST

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          •  I am (still) voting for Edwards (0+ / 0-)

            But our field is the best I've seen in my adulthood. Can't take that away, me thinks.

            Meanwhile, the GOP field is horrible, including McCain.

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            by nowheredesign on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:08:50 AM PST

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            •  oh it pure horror over at GOPland, but I do think (0+ / 0-)

              that HRC is so polarizing that she would not win against McCain regardless of scandal.  They are both hawks and Joe Schmo American will go with the war hero.

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              by MadAsHellMaddie on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:11:17 AM PST

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              •  You need to have some facts to back up (0+ / 0-)

                statements like that if you want to be persuasive. You are entitled to hold that opinion, but I think the big issue here is that folks keep on using that meme without citing supporting facts.

                She is last on my list, but, she, in my opinion, is not the one who can be blamed for polarizing. Rather, it is the people who don't want her at all cost.

                No meanness intended, BTW, just my opinion.

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                by nowheredesign on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:18:36 AM PST

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      •  He's more likely to clean Obama's clock. (1+ / 0-)
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        There one electability assertion that matches another.  

        I've seen one candidate who was "The Electable Candidate" go down to the dirty politics of the right.  So these claims that Obama is "The Only One" who can win against them don't have much effect.  

        The fact that Obama has his own problems in the electable area that are ignored by his supporters is more worrying for me.  Because Clinton is very aware of her problems and is working to overcome them while Obama seems to agree with his supporters that he's the electable one and is not addressing his issues.  So who is more likely to lose?  The one who accepts and addresses those issues or the one whose buying his own hype?  

        ...that cannot be a wise contrivance which in its operation may commit the government of a nation to the wisdom of an idiot. Thomas Paine Rights of Man

        by Rebecca on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:27:45 AM PST

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        •  Whomever the nominee... (0+ / 0-)

          I think that's why we're here.

          I get this 'throw in the towel' feeling from folks here if a specific candidate is nominated. Worse, I have been seeing the vote for the GOP nominee in protest threats growing.

          That kind of stuff is what really scares me, not the nominee.

          This is a process, and I wish more of us would keep it in mind.

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          by nowheredesign on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 10:47:28 AM PST

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          •  Which is something I have been saying again and (1+ / 0-)
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            again.  If we look back before this campaign we were united that the point of this election was to elect a Democrat and any Democrat was better than any Republican.  It seems to me that the Obama supporters especially have forgotten that and seem to be thinking that the purpose of this election is to elect their candidate.  Look at the Clinton trashing and hatred being expressed here.  Look at the number of people who responding to this hatred are actually saying they won't vote for Clinton because she's just as bad as any Republican.  It's pathetic and destructive of our chances, our party and the movement that wants better Democrats.

            I'll vote for the person with the D after their name in this election because that's the way to end the Republican revolution.  But we're not going to get the perfect progressive candidate at this time and the delusion that Obama is just that is simply that a delusion.  That delusion is divisive in itself.  

            ...that cannot be a wise contrivance which in its operation may commit the government of a nation to the wisdom of an idiot. Thomas Paine Rights of Man

            by Rebecca on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 11:13:10 AM PST

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