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  •  It appears that McCain will be the nominee (6+ / 0-)

    ...and there was a time that many Americans liked and trusted him.  I wonder if all of his transgressions between then and now will be forgiven...

    He kinda spooks me...

    "Ipstho Phacto"...daffy duck

    by trinityfly on Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 01:11:44 PM PST

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    •  Not totally sure (6+ / 0-)

      Romney may take Florida and California.  The Republicans are at heart authoritarian, and it seems most of the money and the machine is behind Romney.  He may well win in the end... which would be brilliant for us, since he is totally beatable.

      In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ...Thomas Jefferson

      by ivorybill on Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 01:14:26 PM PST

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      •  Romney is leading now in delegates (4+ / 0-)

        and MCCain is in 3rd but a lot will happen that could flip that by Super Tuesday. But I would not be surprised to see the Republican nominee process go on far beyond Super Tuesday. And they are bludgeoning each other and there is blood everywhere.

        An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity.

        by wishingwell on Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 01:23:17 PM PST

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      •  Rudy's running hard in Florida (0+ / 0-)

        talking up the economy rather than his never-ending 9/11 speak. I think he still has a chance to pull that state out. The other big three are beating up each other and ignoring Rudy in an effort to minimize him. I think it might backfire.

        A win, or even a decent second place showing, would put Rudy back in the picture for S-D Tuesday.

        Or that's just wishful thinking on my part. I just want to see the repugs dump there most electable candidate: John McCain.

    •  yes. and it won't be a walk for the democratic (6+ / 0-)
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      nominee. not by a long shot. unfortunately.

    •  As long as that photo of him (3+ / 0-)
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      kissing GDub on the cheek is in circulation, I don't think so...

      You must be the change you wish to see in the world. - Gandhi

      by Gentle Giant on Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 01:25:11 PM PST

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    •  That might be a problem. (4+ / 0-)
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      He still manages to maintain his (fake) perception of being a maverick.  The press loves him.

      His weaknesses seem to be his age and building much of his campaign on being the one to insist on the "winning" strategy in Iraq.

      The Iraq issue may again change, not that it ever really got better--unless you think going from horrible levels of violence to merely high levels is an improvement.  Unless you think ethnic cleansing is great.  (Much of the "improvement" in Iraq seems to be the result of force removal of populations.)  And unless you give not a damn what the central government does.

      Then, of course, Sadr is deciding what to do now that his truce has expired. And the US Army has armed and paid slews of Sunnis.

      McCain has made an enormous bet.  Maybe it will work.

      •  the religious right doesn't trust him (4+ / 0-)

        Huckabee's candidacy has exposed the rift in the GOP between the corporate warmongers and the Christianist nuts. McCain cannot count on their enthusiastically backing him, as they did Bush. Even a McCain-Huckabee ticket might not salve those wounds.

        •  AmTaliban will go with GOP every time (1+ / 0-)
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          rather than vote for ANY Dem, no matter how faithful the candidate tries to portray him/herself.

          •  I think for McCain, yes (0+ / 0-)

            and definately against Hillary.

            I don't know, though - they might hesitate over Romney v. Obama.

          •  not McCain (0+ / 0-)

            he's gone out of his way to shit on them in the past, his recent pandering notwithstanding.

            If Huckabee isn't on the ticket, many on religious right may vote for McCain, but they won't mobilize and provide the fundraising and fervent grassroots backing that did so much to help elect Bush.

            •  religious right (0+ / 0-)

              In terms of political blocs... there IS no "religious right" in New York.

              There are individual voters who are on the religious right, just like anywhere... but there simply is no "religious right" within the NY Republican Party as any sort of organized force.

              The only entity in New York that can claim political mobilization on any traditional issues of the religious right would be what remains of the Catholic Church (and the issue is abortion).  Of course, the Catholics are also big-time against the death penalty (a left issue) as well.

              •  not specifically speaking of NY (2+ / 0-)
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                but of the nation in general.

                By "religious right" I mean a sect of Christians called the dominionists. They are backing Huckabee's candidacy, and they have considerable strength throughout the Southeast and even some in states such as California. One diarist here, dogemperor, has written extensively about them.

                They are the true "American Taliban", and they are hoping to gain mainstream respectability by putting Huckabee on the ticket. It's they who were uneasily allied with Bush in 2000 and who helped him so much then.

                They're a powerful force in American politics, and McCain can't hope to win without their cooperation.

              •  pretty much same in NJ (0+ / 0-)

                GOopers were trending Rudi, but who knows now?  Huckaboy is a no-go in NJ.

            •  agree, may sit out - but won't go Dem (2+ / 0-)
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              no matter who is the nominee

    •  I don't think McCain will wear well (2+ / 0-)
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      it's a long time between now and the general, and he'll have to do a lot of speaking. At the moment he's riding high on sentimental attachment (it's "his turn", after all), the fact that the other GOP candidates are so unpalatable, and his surprise victory in NH.

      McCain's pretty one-note, and I think that once it's clear that he wants to attack Iran, enough people will get turned off of him.

    •  He is the one rethug candidate I am afraid of. (2+ / 0-)
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      He would pull in Independents by the carload.  Veterans will still go for him, especially the Legion members, who still think this war is the best thing since WWII.

      The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all - JFK- 5/18/63-Vanderbilt Univ.

      by oibme on Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 02:04:53 PM PST

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    •  the media loves him (1+ / 0-)
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      It appears that McCain will be the nominee (6+ / 0-)

      ...and there was a time that many Americans liked and trusted him.  I wonder if all of his transgressions between then and now will be forgiven...

      He kinda spooks me...

      CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, and ABC's reporters all still like him. McCain will enjoy their softball support right up through November.

      FOX is in Rudy's back pocket, but you know they are a mouthpiece of the Republican Party anyway.

      We have no desire to offend you -- unless you are a twit!

      by ScrewySquirrel on Mon Jan 21, 2008 at 02:50:05 PM PST

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