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  •  Edwards & Gandhi (3+ / 0-)

    Edwards sure was slow to develop his convictions....he didn't have them in the Senate.

    "Unrestricted immigration is a dangerous thing -- look at what happened to the Iroquois." Garrison Keillor

    by SpiderStumbled22 on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 12:53:06 PM PST

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    •  Gandhi started out his career (6+ / 0-)

      as a lawyer, admitted to the British Bar and working for a law fim with interests in South Africa. Luckily, most of us learn and change our views based on our life's experiences, and even Mahatma Gandhi was no exception.

      The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. -FZ

      by lightfoot on Sat Jan 26, 2008 at 01:17:17 PM PST

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      •  How far toward his ultimate position was Ghandi . (1+ / 0-)
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        ... after 4 years in politics?

        That is yet one more self-contradicting line of argument thrown out there ... from the "35 years of experience" one who made the mistake of trusting Bush with the authority of war "as a last resort" ... TO funding the invasion once he proved what the majority outside of America already realized ... TO funding the occupation for years ... and now the peace candidate, like her buddy Lieberman.

        ... with no shame sending out those who owe her or who need legislative favors from her to argue that the politican in his first half decade as a politician should have had so much better insight ... than she had with her supposed multiple decades of experience.

        Yeah, sure, I saw that Bush was itching to invade. I also saw that pandering to the "support the troops" line instead of fighting it would be a vile addiction that would be terribly hard to break. Somehow one person is saint because he got the earlier half right and did not learn from his success and got the latter half seriously wrong, while the other is a villain because he learned from his tragic mistake?

        And all of it as if the warping and twisting to arrive at the foreordained conclusion changes the fact that one candidate since 2005 has consistently staked his race on progressive positions and the other two have since 2005 consistently hedged their bets.

      •  Great smackdown, lightfoot n/t (3+ / 0-)
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      •  I started out as a strict conservative (7+ / 0-)

        But learned after being part of a small company gobbled up by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp and subsequently downsized.

        I watched a lot of people I worked with, usually older people, wound up out on their ass.

        The 80's were a revelation to me about the direction big business was being allowed to take this country.

        I've been growing more passionately liberal ever since.

        I KNOW people change.

      •  Good Thought... (3+ / 0-)
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        I chose the Gandhi quote not because I was comparing Edwards to Gandhi, but to the sage advice that he had on sticking to your principles no matter what adversity that you may face.

        It never occurred to me to look at Gandhi's path as an attorney. That was a bloody brilliant observation on your part.

        Edwards is a truly good soul as MLKIII pointed out. Gandhi was a truly great soul... Mahatma as the name states and I would never try to make that comparison.

        As Albert Eintein said of him:

        "Generations to come, it may be, will scarce believe that such one as this ever in flesh and blood walked upon this earth".

        Edwards began his work on poverty before his political career did in his work with Urban Ministries and later with the Poverty Center at UNC. The trolls don't like to acknowledge that, but their intention is not fairness or truth so I don't pay them much mind.

        As to how far Edwards path will take him in his fight for social justice... who knows? He is still writing the chapters and I'd like to help him in any way I can.

        •  And the great thing about it is ... (0+ / 0-)

          ... that Edwards has chosen the Movement strategy, so, unlike the Charismatic Leader strategy, everything does not hinge on the quality of the soul of the standard bearer.

          Edwards seems to me to have a good soul, but having invested his political success in the Movement strategy, I can vote for him without worrying over whether that is a valid impression. Even if he is a craven political opportunist, if he has invested his political success on achieving real, progressive successes, that'll work too.

    •  Per John Maynard Keynes (1+ / 0-)
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      "When situations change [or new information comes to light], I change my opinion.  What do you do?

      - J.M. Keynes

    •  Edwards & God (0+ / 0-)

      very similar, if you're a believer.

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