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  •  We were fucked when Reagan and GHWB (6+ / 0-)

    got away with mass murder, massive bank fraud drug and arms smuggling.

    Don't kid yourself, thinking Bush and Cheney are "it".

    This shit has been going on for nearly 30 years. Our government was sold to corporate control when Reagan came into power, and the groudwork to make it all happen was started by GHWB, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Negroponte and other filthy traitors during Nixon's and Ford's time.

    "If you want to go quickly, go alone.
    If you want to go far, go together.
    We have to go far, quickly."

    by shpilk on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:05:04 PM PST

    •  John Kerry was onto the BCCI thing, but backed (1+ / 0-)
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      off .. maybe they threatened to kill him and his whole family, who the hell knows. It doesn't make any difference, we're vended, branded and were sold down the rive long, long ago ..

      .. feeling the ropes around our necks now, way too late. Democrats should have impeached, convicted and incarcerated the whole Reagan administration.

      "If you want to go quickly, go alone.
      If you want to go far, go together.
      We have to go far, quickly."

      by shpilk on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:07:36 PM PST

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    •  That is why the current struggle is likely to be (3+ / 0-)

      a painful one. Too many people, rethug and demo, have their hands in the till and are deeply afraid.

      "Nations, like individuals, are punished for their transgressions." U.S.Grant

      by shigeru on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:09:45 PM PST

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    •  Does being 'fucked' twice make it... (1+ / 0-)
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      Okay. Or does it just feel better.

      Get real, I know Bush and Cheney aren't 'it'.

      This diary is not about them pal.

      It's about Conyers and his fellows in the 'Democrat' Party.

      'I'm writing as Nestor since scoop in it's awesome wisdom won't let me use my real screen name: A.Citizen'

      by Nestor Makhnow on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:12:45 PM PST

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    •  Bingo. We Need to Go Third Party, people... (2+ / 0-)
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      I know, I know. This is a Dem-only site and all, but either Progressives take it upon themselves to establish a new party en masse, or they will be forced to because right now BOTH parties are feeding out the trough that Republicans set up and they will absolutely never give that away. And they won't make the WH pay because they don't want to jeopardize their piece of the pie.

      Since 2006 they have done NOTHING to make the WH accountable. And yet we're still here racking our brains on how to make them work for us. The answer is right there: they don't want to.

      •  'S been this way many times before. (1+ / 0-)
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        Taking over the Dem Party is gonna be easier than you think. I've got other reasons for saying that but.....

        This clip ought to show you that. Anybody stupid enough, arrogance plays a roll also, to stand up in public and say this just don't get it.

        'I'm writing as Nestor since scoop in it's awesome wisdom won't let me use my real screen name: A.Citizen'

        by Nestor Makhnow on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:20:05 PM PST

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      •  And why should we expect a third party... (0+ / 0-)

        ...to be any better?

        The Senate is the last bastion of white supremacy. --Andrew Gumbel

        by Free Spirit on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:29:52 PM PST

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      •  no, we need to sweep the trash out (0+ / 0-)

        and rebuild it from the inside out

        "If you want to go quickly, go alone.
        If you want to go far, go together.
        We have to go far, quickly."

        by shpilk on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:48:26 PM PST

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