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  •  So much better (2+ / 0-)
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    that they're not even in the same stratosphere. Just take one point- the environment - all the Dems take that very seriously, they actually have plans and have had for quite some time. Talk to any of the Rethugs and they're all climate change deniers, many of them deny evolution and insist the world is only 6,000 years old!

    I'll take people who have grounding in reality every day over the misguided and ignorant Rethugs. Bush has to be the stupidest, least intellectually curious president we have ever had. Bleh!

    Efforts and courage are not enough without purpose and direction ~ John F. Kennedy

    by vcmvo2 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:22:36 AM PST

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    •  And what about the economy? (0+ / 0-)

      chimpy has run the economy into the ground,  the middle class are seriously wounded and the poor are bleeding out.  And what do all the rethug candidates want to do?  "Make the Bush tax cuts permanent!"  

      Our troops won the war. Bush lost the peace.

      by snazzzybird on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:53:21 AM PST

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        I'll tell you a secret about the economy: The President doesn't have a magic top-hat from which s/he pulls jobs. The President is only capable of making the economy worse. It's charming that you think that pulling even more money out of people's pockets to go to the pols' cronies somehow "stimulates" the economy, but also totally irrational. Perhaps if the government got it's nose out of problems best handled by other means, kept their hands out of our pockets, and actually adhered to the authority spelled out by the Constitution ( you know, that thing Obama seems to have suddenly discovered?) our economy wouldn't need "stimulated" in the first place.
        Of course, my advice is falling on deaf ears. Being the liberals you are, you think more government is better.

        AFA the environment, has it ever occured to you that the Federal government has established a track record of royally screwing up every job handed to it, and then refusing to relinquish the authority?
        Think hard on this one; you have exactly one chance to get it right.

        •  Are you talking to me? [/de niro] (0+ / 0-)

          It's charming that you think that pulling even more money out of people's pockets to go to the pols' cronies somehow "stimulates" the economy, but also totally irrational.

          What's less charming is you declaring youself an authority on what I think.  Based on what, exactly?  Bush's tax cuts, aka the windfall for the very wealthiest, haven't stimulated the economy either.  If anyone gets a significant tax cut I think it should be the middle classes and below, because they'll spend the money at home.  (That's a vast simplification of my opinion, but will suffice for this conversation.)

          AFA the environment, has it ever occured to you that the Federal government has established a track record of royally screwing up every job handed to it, and then refusing to relinquish the authority?

          Has it occurred to you that when the private sector takes over any entity that provides a service, suddenly the primary purpose of that entity is to make a profit for itself and its stockholders?  For example, I don't want a health care industry that's in business to make money, I want one that's in business to provide health care.  If the only way to do that is for the government to administer it, so be it.

          Oh, and the people who lived through the Great Depression would probably disagree with your condemnation of the Federal government and its programs.  

          Think hard on this one; you have exactly one chance to get it right.

          I don't know what you mean by this.  Are you implying that depending on the way this election goes, democracy -- or the world -- may come to an end?  Because unless one of those things happens, I (and everyone else) will have another chance to get it right, and another and another, every four years.

          Of course, if you're just trying to be a condescending ass, then knock yourself out.

          Our troops won the war. Bush lost the peace.

          by snazzzybird on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:51:45 AM PST

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      •  addendum (0+ / 0-)

        We're on the same page on more topics than not. Where we differ is the proper role of government in our lives.

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