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  •  Giving speeches in churches is not forbidden (4+ / 0-)

    its how you do it...

    you have to invite everyone on equal terms

    the church can't endorse anyone, explicitly or implicitly

    you can't ask for votes or tell someone to vote against so and so.

    Disclosure: Proud to be the Volunteer coordinator for Indiana for WesPAC

    by ElaineinIN on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:52:42 PM PST

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    •  How do you (1+ / 0-)
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      Rolfyboy6

      stop, or even define, an "implicit" endorsement?

      •  They don't. (1+ / 0-)
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        Rolfyboy6

        As a matter of practice, only express, I-dare-you-to-fine-me endorsements will run afoul of the IRS.

        "[G]lobalization is...increasing the efficiency of resource allocation through stronger capital markets" - Barack Obama

        by burrow owl on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:09:00 PM PST

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        •  Stop if you are the IRS, difficult (2+ / 0-)
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          burrow owl, Rolfyboy6

          define,  possible...

          counsel your clients to abide by the letter of the law... necessary

          Disclosure: Proud to be the Volunteer coordinator for Indiana for WesPAC

          by ElaineinIN on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:11:51 PM PST

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          •  Any counselor will give an opinion (1+ / 0-)
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            Rolfyboy6

            as to how the law is enforced, and what the entity can do given prior practice by the IRS.

            "[G]lobalization is...increasing the efficiency of resource allocation through stronger capital markets" - Barack Obama

            by burrow owl on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:12:58 PM PST

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            •  Sort of (1+ / 0-)
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              Jules Beaujolais

              I clearly can't tell a client to do something I think is in violation of 501c3 because the IRS isn't choosing to enforce it.

              In fact, I think under Circular 230, I think I am even very limited in my ability to tell clients that in the case of a grey area, they can take into account how likely they are to be audited.

              Disclosure: Proud to be the Volunteer coordinator for Indiana for WesPAC

              by ElaineinIN on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:24:26 PM PST

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      •  The IRS has some pronouncements on the issue (4+ / 0-)

        some are on the website...

        In short, you don't need to say vote for Mike Huckabee to violate the statute.

        If you invite him to your church, and the pastor is standing next to him and says, when you are voting, remember who the good christian is...

        If you invite him on sunday morning, and all the other candidates at 3 am on Tuesday...

        If his name is in bold and everyone else is in italics and 3 pt type in the margin...

        anything that implies endorsement by manner or placement without using the words "vote" explicitly.

        Disclosure: Proud to be the Volunteer coordinator for Indiana for WesPAC

        by ElaineinIN on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:10:22 PM PST

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