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  •  I think it's the opposite. (3+ / 0-)

    I think the poor white vote will go to Clinton.  Obama's been successful (at least marginally) amongst affluent whites.  We'll see how this turns out.  It does not bode well for Obama, and in that case it seems that Edwards will end up being a kingmaker in a way none of us predicted.

    "It's better to vote for what you want, and not get it, than to vote for what you don't want, and get it." Eugene Debs, 1912.

    by cybrestrike on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:09:15 AM PST

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    •  Yes (3+ / 0-)
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      Fast Pete, milton333, cybrestrike

      Obama's been getting killed among working-class whites. Unless he can turn that around, I don't see how he can win this thing.

    •  Poor white.. (3+ / 0-)
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      went for Hillary in the exit polls from the primaries. They did not go for Edwards. This surprised me.

      •  Yeah... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...I didn't get it at first, but then upon closer scrutiny, Edwards wasn't in the media much, and that helped Clinton (with her built in name recognition).  Low income voters are typically low info voters, and if a message isn't out in the MSM, then the message won't be heard by them.

        "It's better to vote for what you want, and not get it, than to vote for what you don't want, and get it." Eugene Debs, 1912.

        by cybrestrike on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:21:57 AM PST

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        •  This is incredibly insulting (2+ / 0-)
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          to a population that comprises the core of Democratic voters, the solidly working class.  To suggest that wealthier voters have "more information" without any evidence of such is shameful.  It is possible that low-income voters believe that HRC will most strongly represent them and their issues.  "Those voters are too stupid to know better" is not much of a strategy for winning a primary or a general.

          Thought is only a flash in the middle of a long night, but the flash that means everything - Henri Poincaré

          by milton333 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:37:29 AM PST

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          •  Keeping working people ignorant... (2+ / 0-)
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            ... is the strategy of the right-wing monarchists, and has been for a long time.  That's why they work so hard to destroy public education and to prevent working people from earning a living wage... by forcing working people to work longer hours, at two or three jobs, the right-wing monarchists prevent working people from having the luxury of time to educate themselves thoroughly on the issues.

            This gives the right-wing monarchists who control the media the ability to control what working people hear and see about candidates.

            It is in no way insulting to recognize that working people are victimized by those who would conspire to keep them in their place.  How do you explain so many working people voting Republican, against their own economic and political interests, over and over again?

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