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  •  Same recollection. (7+ / 0-)

    My, how those horrified pillars of fiscal probity have changed. Same with human rights; for them, depends on whose ox is waterboarded.
    Anyway, the remedy is repeal the Bush tax cuts and intensify the progressivity of our tax system. Oh yeah, and divert two thirds of the military budget to solving real problems in education, healthcare, energy efficiency and conservation, mass transit, regulating corporate activities, environmental protection and restoration and other social services.

    •  Goopers were last fiscal conservatives in 1979 (1+ / 0-)
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      From the 1980 Reagan campaign on, they threw that previous core party concept out the window.  In 2/80, GHWB (correctly) dismissed the Reagan tax cut plan as "voodoo economics."  A year later, he was out on the hustings shilling said plan.

      In terms of budgetary arithmetic, W is an obvious successor to the Reagan mantle.

      Some men see things as they are and ask why. I see things that never were and ask why not?

      by RFK Lives on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 10:53:31 AM PST

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      •  Selling the Fake Free Lunch (4+ / 0-)

        In 1981, before the Reagan budget really took hold, the national debt was one trillion dollars ($2.2 trillion in current dollars). At the end of Reagan's last budget, the national debt was $2.9 trillion ($4.8 trillion in current dollars). GHWB, one-time supporter of fiscal responsibility pushed the debt to $4.4 trillion ($6.3 trillion in current), an even more absurd result than Reagan's, though most of it was Reagan's legacy.

        Even Clinton made it a bit worse, $5.8 trillion ($6.8 trillion in today's money), but then we have George, the incompetent son, Bush pushing things up to today's $9 trillion.

        So, the next time a Republican whines about Democrats, ask them why the Republicans added more than $6.6 billion to the national debt since Reagan took office (with another trillion easily the responsibility of these wasteful fools). When they whine about that, ask them about the slowing average growth since Reagan's 'revolution' and the increasing inequality in the country. Ask them why Americans should ever trust the Republicans with our economy again.

      •  Oh, I'm not so sure... (0+ / 0-)

        In the mid-90s when the Repubs took over Congress, they worked hard to get the budget balanced.  You can disagree with the cuts they made, but they were certainly a serious element, even the driving force, in bringing about the surplus under Clinton.  The current crop of Repubs, however, are a different story.  As far as I can tell, there is NOTHING in them that is fiscally responsible, knowledgable, or moral.

        I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

        by beemerr90s on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 12:02:38 PM PST

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        •  Current crop of Republicans (0+ / 0-)

          are by and large the same assholes who were there in 94.  At least a good number of them are.

          •  True, but it doesn't change the fact that (0+ / 0-)

            they had some semblance of fiscal responsibility back then.  Kasich (sp?), the primary hatchet-man, is now out of the equation, Gingrich, Scarboro are gone, and I'm sure there are others.  But you're right, they are largely the same assholes.

            I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

            by beemerr90s on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 01:25:14 PM PST

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            •  Read freelunch's post above (0+ / 0-)

              which has actual #s.  Reagan almost tripled the national debt in 8 years.  GHWB added onto the pile as well.  

              Gerald Ford, the last Gooper prez w/ a semblance of fiscal responsibility, left office when Obama wasn't old enough to drive yet.

              Some men see things as they are and ask why. I see things that never were and ask why not?

              by RFK Lives on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 04:11:22 PM PST

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