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  •  Williams's approach is wrong (1+ / 0-)
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    Luckily, the (unwritten, but still understood) British constitution would never make room for such foolishness.

    •  I very much doubt it. (0+ / 0-)

      While I wouldn't be surprised if the government allowed a "free vote" on the matter, rather than making it a government bill for which labor party members are expected to vote the party line.

      The British are masters of compromise and exception, and have often tolerated differing laws for different, sometimes ideosyncratic locations, and even for different individuals.  The magna carta, for example, expressly recognizes the notion that aristocrats and commoners can justly be treated differently under the law (a "jury of your peers").

      A bill that emerged from parliament would likely be a compromise.  

      For example, it might strengthen the deferrence given to marriages valid where entered into, even if not valid in the U.K. by muting the public policy exception to that rule to recognize marriages such as plural marriages entered into when all participants were domiciled outside the U.K. (with Shariah to govern the rights of the parties thereto) and marriages of children entered into abroad when the parties to the marriages were adults upon entering the U.K.

      A mandatory non-binding arbitration provision in a pre-nuptial by religious officials, which would provide an out with resort to the civil courts for people willing to risk shunning by their community in the bargain, might also pass muster.

      "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" -- Voltaire

      by ohwilleke on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 11:17:39 AM PST

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      •  Compromise With Extremism = Extremism (0+ / 0-)

        You just described precisely how the Overton Window lets extremism force "compromise" steadily towards their extreme.

        "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

        by DocGonzo on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 11:47:13 AM PST

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        •  Compromise picks off moderates. (0+ / 0-)

          British Muslims, in general, are far more moderate than their peers in places like Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan.

          And, extremism is made possible by throngs of far less extreme people who are willing to look the other way because the status quo pisses them off too, but no so much that they will take positive action to do something about it.

          If a compromise means the difference between grudging tolerance of the disfavored status quo, and positive support of the status quo, for 80%-90% of British Muslims and their leaders, then the extremist cause is undermined.

          A perception that your way of life is threatened is the surest way to strengthen the power of religion in people's lives, because religion is fundamentally an institution for preserving culture.  The Anglican church is dying, in contrast, primarily because it reinforces a secure set of British cultural ideals.

          "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" -- Voltaire

          by ohwilleke on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:15:19 PM PST

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