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  •  Not Bush's fault (5+ / 0-)

    Actually, as far as I can tell, the Border Patrol Agent acted properly. This is the exact procedure we use on everybody who comes to the USA as an illegal immigrant. Since apparently, this guy had not obtained the correct visa, he was an illegal immigrant every bit as much as a Mexican walking across the border, or Arnold Schwarzenegger when he first came in the 1960s.

    The law that covers the actions of the Border Patrol Agent is indeed overly harsh - but it was signed by Clinton in 1996.

    Much as I hate Bush and generally liked Bill Clinton, this is one you can't blame Bush for.

    Army 1st Lt. Ehren T. Watada, Lt. Cdr USN Matthew Diaz, SPC Eli Israel: true American heroes.

    by sdgeek on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 07:45:31 AM PST

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    •  Sadly true. (6+ / 0-)

      And really, America has been messed up about immigration for a long time.

      Strange when you consider that almost every one of us is a child of immigrants, most of fairly recent vintage. . .

      What would Gandhi do? "The cause of liberty becomes a mockery if the price to be paid is the wholesale destruction of those who are to enjoy liberty."

      by Robespierrette on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 08:05:55 AM PST

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      ""After stripping down naked in front of an officer and putting on the inmate uniform I am ordered to lean forward, put my hands on the wall and spread my legs. An officer does a touch-down exam on every part of my body.

      "Then I was thrown in a single cell again with a concrete block to sit or sleep on and the lights on all night to stay up. Every half-hour an officer wakes you up, moves you into a different cell or asks you questions again," he said.

      "I never fall asleep for longer than a few minutes. They bring me to a separate area and a different cell again. They run medical tests and an X-ray of my chest until 4 a.m."

      The next stop was a small cell with iron bunk beds and no mattresses."

      Quizá, podríamos!
      (But it takes more than just a President)

      by shpilk on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 08:53:01 AM PST

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    •  Correctly? (8+ / 0-)

      That includes the strip search, humiliation, sleep deprivation and constant bullying?

      In that case, America is even more f**ked up than I thought.

      I'll stay in this side of the pond, thank you very much.

      The Prince of Peace has been usurped by the God of War.

      by Spoc42 on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 09:07:39 AM PST

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    •  Really? Is it mandated that the person (4+ / 0-)

      be deprived of sleep, not told what his options are or what is going on, strip-searched and taunted?

      Fox News--We distort; you watch, self-satisfied. We misreport; you witness liberticide. We sport with truth; liberals apply vermicide.

      by Cowalker on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 10:39:12 AM PST

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      •  We was told what his options are (1+ / 0-)
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        According to the diary, he was told several times that he could withdraw his application for admission. If he had agreed to that, he would have been free to return to Austria without any further ado, without the detention, and without even any repercussions for future visits.

        It was apparently only after he refused to do that that he was put into detention for expedited removal (i.e., deportation). At this point, there are no options any more.

        Army 1st Lt. Ehren T. Watada, Lt. Cdr USN Matthew Diaz, SPC Eli Israel: true American heroes.

        by sdgeek on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:48:42 PM PST

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    •  Clinton is NOT responsible (1+ / 0-)
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      This was not happening under Clinton.  It's only since the unfortunately germanic sounding "Homeland Security" Dept took over INS and Customs and hired all these bullies that these have been these abuses requiring cash settlements. The giant growth in the budget for these ICE detention centers and the common practice of holding people indefinitely did not occur under Clinton. Holding American born children in ICE detention centers did not occur under Clinton.

      •  No, it predates DHS (2+ / 0-)
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        opendna, LaFajita

        The same types of reports have come up ever since 1996. Actually, to a lesser degree even under the old law before the draconian 1996 IIRCA was signed.

        Holding people indefinitely actually happened MORE under Clinton than under Bush. It was required under the IIRCA law.

        That's not Bush's doing, of course, but the Supreme Court has largely outlawed this practice.

        And the way children are treated also has been improved recently; it was worse in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

        Army 1st Lt. Ehren T. Watada, Lt. Cdr USN Matthew Diaz, SPC Eli Israel: true American heroes.

        by sdgeek on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:55:12 PM PST

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      •  Clinton "hired all these bullies" (0+ / 0-)

        Bush just changed the uniform.

        Further, it was Clinton's reforms that required the construction of the detention facilities. Where previously INS officers could make a determination and send someone home the same day, now the same people must be held in detention until a court makes the final determination and a deportation is actually executed.

        The Atlantic Monthly online is now subscription-free... including archives!

        by opendna on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:16:51 PM PST

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