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  •  Ask the County Sheriff (0+ / 0-)

    What happened in the jail has nothing to do with CBP (or even ICE) and didn't occur in their custody.

    My money says the police department is required to provide medical services to minimize the risk of deaths in custody.

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    by opendna on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:59:26 PM PST

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    •  Nice attempt to change the subject (0+ / 0-)

      You were defending it as by-the-book, but now you've switched from defending what was done to quibbling over who did it.

      Medical would explain an exam. It could explain coming and checking on someone every half hour. It would NOT explain moving someone from one cell to another, to another, every half hour.

      If Obama's ahead and superdelegates give it to Clinton I'm voting for McCain--Geekesque

      by dconrad on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 12:39:11 AM PST

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      •  Oh, I'm sorry. (0+ / 0-)

        I was under the impression that this diary was about the fascist CBP and ICE officers who tortured an innocent man, not the poor or crowded conditions at city and county jails.

        It's really hard to investigate if you get the who, what, where, when and why all wrong in your complaint.

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        by opendna on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 12:23:16 PM PST

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        •  Thank you (1+ / 0-)
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          for conceding that there is a genuine complaint here that needs to be investigated. I'm glad you backed off of your earlier claim that "everything was done by law, policy, regulation and book."

          If Obama's ahead and superdelegates give it to Clinton I'm voting for McCain--Geekesque

          by dconrad on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:19:31 AM PST

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          •  I don't know what's going on in jails (0+ / 0-)

            A quick search suggests that overcrowding is big in Tacoma but it's healthcare that's the worry in Seattle, but that may just be a matter of ranking which lawsuit hit hardest most recently.

            Los Angeles has HUGE and enduring overcrowding problems. In 2006, Judge Pregerson described the conditions as "inconsistent with basic human values." (link)   In 2007, the ACLU filed another complaint against the same system alleging "detainees have routinely been denied food, drink, functioning toilets and even toilet paper. In some cases, detainees have been hooded and chained to benches..." (link)   Those are the guys who just got arrested, nevermind everyone else.

            For awhile that meant that anyone who insisted on seeing an immigration judge in LA walked free (it wasn't worth letting a violent offender out just to make room for an undocumented immigrant), but I've heard rumors that a private detention center has moved in. IMHO, the people who say that private prison profits are the motivation for all the "no leniency" policies may be on to something.

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            by opendna on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 02:13:39 AM PST

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