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  •  50% rule (0+ / 0-)

    Every candidate must get 50% of the vote in secret ballots. The Cuban people just had a chance a few weeks ago to vote Fidel out. They declined.

    As far as any doubt of re-election, as I've pointed out elsewhere, Strom Thurmond declined to stand for re-election in 2002 at a time when there was little if any doubt he would be re-elected. And I assure you you won't find a single reference in the media to Strom Thurmond "resigning" or "abdicating." He, like Fidel, retired from public office.

    Eli Stephens
    Left I on the News

    "Philosophers only interpret the world, the point remains to change it." - Karl Marx

    by elishastephens on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 05:02:37 PM PST

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    •  Could you point out to me a single time ... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...when a candidate on the secret ballot in Cuba has not received 50% of the vote?

      I am a socialist and have been for a very long time. Real socialism requires real democracy, and Cuba under Castro has not had real democracy or real freedom of discourse. One does not have to be a supporter of U.S. policy toward Cuba to acknowledge that the country is a dictatorship whose leaders value discipline and loyalty above all else. We've got some leaders in this country like that, too, but that doesn't give the Fidelistas an excuse.  

      The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppose. - Frederick Douglass

      by Meteor Blades on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 05:12:43 PM PST

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      •  Why? (0+ / 0-)

        Could you point out to me a single time ..when a candidate on the secret ballot in Cuba has not received 50% of the vote?

        I'm not in possession of complete election results, but  I doubt that has happened. So what? It only proves that the lower level elections, which produced those nominations from a completely democratic process, albeit not our "best democracy money can buy" process, ended with candidates who met the approval of the electorate. Again I note that at that level, there is a requirement that every office be contested.

        Do you honestly think that if voters went to the ballot next November in the U.S. and George Bush were the only candidate, that he would get more than 50% of the votes? You know very well he wouldn't.

        Eli Stephens
        Left I on the News

        "Philosophers only interpret the world, the point remains to change it." - Karl Marx

        by elishastephens on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 05:27:09 PM PST

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        •  Yes. America's democracy is deeply flawed ... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...and our public discourse is constrained by megamedia control, the situation is far, far worse in Cuba. If you haven't already, and you know someone who speaks Spanish, I recommend you go and find out for yourself outside the hearing of the watchers.

          The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppose. - Frederick Douglass

          by Meteor Blades on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 05:42:54 PM PST

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          •  You recommend I go? (1+ / 0-)
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            If you haven't already, and you know someone who speaks Spanish, I recommend you go and find out for yourself outside the hearing of the watchers.

            That's pretty funny, MB. Perhaps you haven't noticed (of course I know you have) that I CANNOT go to Cuba without risking substantial fines from the U.S. government (actually for the record I HAVE been to Cuba twice, both times when it was briefly legal).

            I would LOVE to take you up on your offer; alas, neither Obama, Clinton, nor McCain (nor the current U.S. regime) proposes to allow me to do so.

            Eli Stephens
            Left I on the News

            "Philosophers only interpret the world, the point remains to change it." - Karl Marx

            by elishastephens on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 06:03:19 PM PST

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