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  •  That was yesterday. (2+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, mightymouse

    This is today.

    And I suspect, if they were relevant, that Kos would geek about Bill's earlier successes.  Hillary's senate victories were cakewalks and did not require anything in the way of high-octane performance.

    "In my youth, it was said that what was too silly to be said may be sung. In modern economics it may be put into mathematics." -- Ronald Coase

    by julatten on Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 11:25:14 PM PST

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    •  Cakewalks? (0+ / 0-)

      I realize Obama has many youthful supporters for whom everything under the sun has a new and crisp feeling of never-experienced-this-before.

      HOWEVER, Hillary's first Senate campaign in NY was only 8 years ago in 2000 and it was anything BUT a cakewalk.  She faced Rick Lazio, a well-funded Congressman, in a state that has routinely elected Republicans statewide (e.g. Pataki, D'Amato).  Hillary and Lazio fought tooth and nail and Hillaryb trailed in many polls until quite late.

      Comments like "Hillary's senate victories were cakewalks" reflect a continuing and surprising ignorance by Obama supporters about Hillary.  It has made it easy to fill their minds with hate towards her when people consider eight years ago "so yesterday."

      LOL.  The idea that youth knows what its doing and older people are clueless is a fable as old as time.  Eventually reality sinks in that the laws of gravity are not suspended because you are under 30.  And when you get older, you will realize that fact.

      •  Not sure whom you're talking about (0+ / 0-)

        but I'm 36 and have seen enough idealistic campaigns crash and burn to know better.

        I worked for Bill in 1992, worked for the Iowa ERA campaign in the same year.  Was captivated by Hillary's presence in that campaign.  I worked for Harkin in 1994.  Worked for Wellstone in 1996.  Worked for Feingold in 1998. Very tough campaigns, especially the last two... Neumann simply would not give up in Wisconsin.  I also paid close attention to Hillary's campaign against Lazio, and I know what I'm talking about when I say it was a cakewalk, comparatively.

        Under thirty, my eye.  Wise up, man.

        "In my youth, it was said that what was too silly to be said may be sung. In modern economics it may be put into mathematics." -- Ronald Coase

        by julatten on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 07:00:02 PM PST

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