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  •  barack obama doesn't dwell on his accomplishments (23+ / 0-)

    but on what he and us can do together. i mean if you watch the guy he has IGNORED his record. Barack has accomplished more real results than Ronald Reagan or Bill Clinton had when they became presidents.

    Yet despite all the criticism he never goes into listing his record. he knows he's accomplished and doesn't have to get all defensive about it.

    hillary says; vote for me because I deserve it.

    •  He also has humility (22+ / 0-)

      You let your accomplishments speak for you and let others, who know the good you have done, speak for you rather than being a nothing more than a bragger looking for a pat on the head.

      •  Humble? are you kidding....Arrogant and Cocky (1+ / 0-)
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        Your adoration has actually blinded your objectivity to the extreme.  How do you not even see
        it...even a little.  Your analysis is "Humble"...this is getting really spooky

        Obama will NEVER beat MCain:(...Please someone do something)HILLARY!

        by DebzLogic on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:00:39 AM PST

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        •  Thankfully (4+ / 0-)
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          we have your objectivity to rely on. Sorry it's been such a rough few weeks, but I'm not sure you're cut out for pop psychology.

        •  The irony: tasty (2+ / 0-)
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          Your adoration has actually blinded your objectivity to the extreme.  How do you not even see it...even a little.

          Mmmm. Fabulous, fabulous irony.

        •  yes, humility (8+ / 0-)

          why do you think the meme that he's all hat and no cattle was floated? Why do you think that Texas rep's interview with Tweety was circulated so readily? Because Barack wasn't touting or flaunting his accomplishments, that's why. People thought it was a gotcha moment- hey, look at Obama the do-nothing candidate. Well, those of us who have KNOWN of his accomplishments were just waiting until people discovered for themselves what all this man has DONE for the American people in his very short time of service. Barack wasn't going around tooting his own record of service, he let his service speak for itself.

        •  I seriously disagree (5+ / 0-)
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          I don't "adore" Obama; I'm behind him because he says he'll ask more of us to get more done, instead of saying he can "win the fight" on our behalf. Change starts with the people.

          Obama was not the one that spent millions on consultants and didn't plan past super tuesday because he couldn't conceive of losing. He knew he was in for a fight, and he planned to contest every vote with an amazing ground game, call center operation, GotV work.

          I think you're misinterpreting his challenge of Clinton's candidacy as arrogance, because you think Hillary deserves the nomination.

          •  I agree with some of your analysis (0+ / 0-)

            HRC should have planned past Super Tuesday...she should have known the media was going to give free advertising to Obama (It will stop when he gets it)and the Republicans were going to rig our election in Nebraska, Idaho, Utah, Nevada, and now probably Texas, by getting (R)'s to vote in our open primaries or go Caucuses (you know the GOP bamboozled us..they had to knock off HRC if they wanted any hope of the WH)  

            But, did you hear Obama saying how great his speeches are.....and the condescending and delayed blinks of the eye's he gives when she talks?  Please, don't tell me you missed this.

            And, silly politics....after the debate Obama camp circulated the "tit for tat" Obama said we can't stand.

            He won't be able to stay on the pedestal some have put him on...who could.  Face it....he's a Pol, just like the rest of them...just shiny and new.

            Obama will NEVER beat MCain:(...Please someone do something)HILLARY!

            by DebzLogic on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 10:35:14 AM PST

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            •  yaAawwwnnnnn (1+ / 0-)
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              Lets see if I have this straight.. basically your point is that a secret Republican scheme is responsible for all those 20 point blow out loses in the last 10 elections? What about the states that don't have an open primary like WI where he defeated Clinton by 17%? How about she this .. She ran a crappy campaign against and it was against a really appealing opponent. Plain and simple.

            •  CT and cynicism (1+ / 0-)
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              (you know the GOP bamboozled us..they had to knock off HRC if they wanted any hope of the WH)

              This is serious conspiracy theory territory, because all evidence is that Obama is a tougher contender in November, and all evidence is that the Republicans believe that. Every pundit, every strategist, every analyst I've seen sound off on this topic has said Obama is dangerous, or they don't know how to beat him, or even outright called him the Democrat's Reagan (meaning he could turn the whole map blue the way Reagan turned the whole map red). So we can either choose to believe that the polls of ordinary voters and pundits and talking heads are all in a mass concerted effort to trick Democrats into thinking Obama is a tougher opponent for McCain... or we can conclude that the polls are true and people are more likely to vote for him, and Republicans know it and are afraid of him.

              This is by no means a knock on your candidate, but I don't see any evidence that she's more electable, other than the semi-anecdotal, "A Clinton has won before". But she's not that Clinton, he had a third party candidate for his first run (and dislodging the incumbent is always harder).

              I'm also quite certain that the GOP is afraid of an Obama run on another level - he is building the party and running in 50 states. They are going to have to play defense everywhere if Obama is the nominee because the 50-state strategy is how he rolls. Clinton does not, and it is basically the #1 reason she is losing. Imagine the state of the race if Hillary had been the one to contest every state.

              But, did you hear Obama saying how great his speeches are.....and the condescending and delayed blinks of the eye's he gives when she talks?  Please, don't tell me you missed this.

              I did miss him saying how great his speeches are.

              I didn't get any impression of arrogance from the way he blinks, no.

              Face it....he's a Pol, just like the rest of them...just shiny and new.

              I refuse to be a cynic about him without cause.

        •  It isn't adoration... (3+ / 0-)
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          Look, anyone who runs to be leader of the free world, is pretty confident in what they can do, and they have to convince us of that.  I've noticed over the years, that when a candidate fails to convince me, they end up looking intensely unappealing.  Arrogant, insincere, phony, and yes, cocky.

          Hillary and Bill look pretty awful to me right now, even though I've always liked them in the past.  This is just what happens.

        •  I don't "adore" Obama (2+ / 0-)
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          He has not acted arrogant or cocky when it comes to his record. He has let it speak for itself and it's a good one. Unlike others he hasn't had to stand there and rattle off accomplishments looking for applause lines and pats on the back.

      •  I have yet to meet a humble politician (0+ / 0-)

        Although if the truth be known I've only met a few, so in theory it might be possible...I just sort of doubt it.

    •  Call me a cultist (8+ / 0-)

      This is one thing that has fascinated me ever since Watson's humiliation the other night. When Hillary offered him the opportunity to make Watson a goat, Obama deflected the conversation to more substantive issues. Obama won't criticize his supporters; He' leaving that up to us.

      Tuesday night there was an absolute deluge of diaries here, cataloguing his achievements as well as the efforts that fell short. I imagine Watson was one of millions of Obama supporters that is taking the time to distinguish themselves from the ditto-heads we have been compared to. If that is what it takes to get Americans to dig deeper, understand policy better and hold our government accountable, keep calling us a cult. Let's show what we've got.

      •  and Hillary was stupid/uninformed enough to (6+ / 0-)

        try and shiv the Watson thing one more time ... little did/does she know how BELOVED and RESPECTED Kirk Watson is in Austin (as the former Mayor) PRECISELY because being a whole lot like Obama he got a whole bunch of stuff done because he knew and knows that it's all about inspiring and creating coalitions that end up forming the needed critical mass to achieve change.

        Watson was classy enough to write in his blog about his gaff - and Tweety is STILL LEFT OUT of the kewl kids honor roll because gotcha politics is exactly what we are all trying to send back to darker ages!

        Hegel said: "History repeats itself - once as tragedy, another as farce." Bush has used them both up, so Let's go change history!

        by sundancekid11 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 at 09:42:21 AM PST

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