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  •  The claims of States Secrets block finding out (2+ / 0-)
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    if anyone really has standing. If they block all efforts to find out if one is has been swept up or targeted, there will never be a way to find out if one has standing. We need a way around the States Secrets claim, something that is in the works, but will need the next Presidents signature to become law.

    "a state that tortures is always a state of hypocrites." a paraphrase of a John Locke quote.

    by SmileySam on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 04:27:06 AM PST

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    •  Judges have discretion (0+ / 0-)

      not to accept a state secrets claim. They've just all been afraid to do so.

      •  Well, yes, afraid or Bush Kool-Aid (0+ / 0-)


        One of the biggest failures of the Clinton years was the failure to get all the Federal judgeships filled and keep them filled with less-than-fanatical conservative appointees.  

        Bush has worked that angle tirelessly, knowing that his ideological bedmates would cover his ass. (if I may speak so crudely)  Bush has literally been remaking the Federal judiciary as we slept. The ultra-conservative Bushies have been loading up the Federal payroll with tons of their worker-trolls.  It will take decades to undo the damage.

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