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  •  Why should I settle for a candidate that was (0+ / 0-)

    wrong on Iraq when there is one I like more who was right on Iraq?

    And Iraq ain't all there is neither.

    There is all of that Clinton baggage. In spite of all of his qualities and accomplishments, Bill Clinton did disgrace his party, office and country by using his position to get sexual favors.

    There is the rotten negative campaign the Hillary has and is running. I know lies and empty attacks when I see them and apparently so do many other voters.

    We shall overcome, someday. Yes we can.

    by Sam Wise Gingy on Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 10:25:37 AM PST

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    •  Can I ask you (0+ / 0-)

      how old you are? I'm not being snarky, I'm just wondering if our seeing things so differently is a generational thing; and if it is, how we go about bridging the gap.

      •  50s (0+ / 0-)

        Old enough to know a political phenomena when I see one.

        I was a little kid when Kennedy came on the stage and that was the first name of a politician I can remember knowing.

        I was 10 or so when I heard the I have a dream speech. My family was racist. I still remember the sense of awe I had when I heard that speech and I knew MLKJ was speaking the truth.

        I was in junior high when MLKJ was killed and remember going to sleep afraid that rioters would come to my neighborhood.

        A few months later RFK got shot and I can still remember the pain.

        There hasn't been any one like JFK, RFK, and MLKJ that I  liked since, until Obama.

        When someone like Obama comes along all you can do is pray they are on your side. Thank God he is.

        If Obama was a Republican (God knows he couldn't be) then this election would be over.

        We shall overcome, someday. Yes we can.

        by Sam Wise Gingy on Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 10:51:02 AM PST

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        •  Okay, it's not generational (0+ / 0-)

          since we are in the same age group, and shared similar experiences in our early years of political awareness. There is plenty that I like about Obama, but his thin resume concerns me and he hasn't been able to explain it away to my satisfaction. I think the GOP attack machine will make mincemeat of him, figuratively speaking, and I also worry about his physical safety, because we have NOT overcome. If he is our nominee, I will of course support him despite my misgivings-- and honestly--I'm not blinded by any light here--I have misgivings about Hillary too, but after much deliberation, I have decided that her life experience makes her the better qualified candidate of what we have left to navigate the international clusterfuck the Bush cabal has created. I'm afraid McCain will get my kid (a soldier) killed. I don't know that Hillary or Obama WON'T, but life is about hard choices and trying your best to choose wisely. I won't deny that Obama has something special, but I don't know that it's what we need RIGHT NOW to get us out of the very deep crap we're in.  My experience in politics and life has taught me that you don't always get what you want, and you aren't always gong to like your choices. I can understand young people, or older ones who have never been involved in politics before, catching and riding this inspirational wave of hopefulness (not a bad thing) because political reality hasn't dumped cold water all over them yet. What's your excuse? :)  And I for all the world want  the younger generation to take the reins and show us all a better way to do things; but if they think they can do it by throwing all the older folks under the bus because we don't know nuthin, then they're on the path to handicapping themselves and losing that bright shiny hope.

          •  The view from under the bus (0+ / 0-)

            is really not all that bad.

            The times they are a changin and IMO none to soon. After all our generation gave them GWB and the invasion of Iraq.

            I hear in the Obama movement a new generation coming of age and claiming ownership politically.

            If HRC had the same appeal to the young and formerly disenfranchised then I would have a very tough choice. But Obama reaches people. I think Hillary could probably twist a few more arms and optimize the office of the presidency better, but IMO she won't have the same mandate behind her that Obama will. IMO that will more than make up for Obama's inexperience.

            We shall overcome, someday. Yes we can.

            by Sam Wise Gingy on Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 01:53:00 PM PST

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