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  •  So, let me get this straight... (1+ / 0-)
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    If African-Americans weren't allowed to vote, Obama would have lost.

    Is that your argument?

    •  No I didn't say that. (0+ / 0-)

      I said that he's getting 90%, maybe 85% to 90% I have read, and that seems to me to be a decisive and demonstrative voting block. I haven't seen the topic thoroughly covered yet.

      HR 676 or California's SB-840 - the only health reform proposals worth my vote.

      by kck on Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 11:43:25 AM PST

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      •  You wrote: (0+ / 0-)

        The Democratic Party, as far as I can recall, has never before had our diversity split up like in this election where one demog (sic) group is voting as a block.

        What did you mean by that?

        •  The Democratic Party has always been the home (0+ / 0-)

          of minority groups: immigrants, Jews, used to be Catholics, blacks, GLBT, feminists, etc. These "groups" are not in reality amorphous blocks of votes but they have always trended with Democrats in elections against Republicans. We are a consolidation of our members who, unlike the Republicans, span many demographic groups and so it's been pretty fair in the past to say that, for instance, GLBT voters will vote Dem, or black voters will probably vote Dem.

          What I said was that I can't recall a time when within our party, in the primaries, after all of the votes were counted, a "group" voted at such a high percentage for one Dem over another. I don't know the data.

          I'm not suggesting anything, just observing the numbers being reported, and not until it's all over will we get to see the real numbers and be able to digest it all.  

          What's the problem?

          HR 676 or California's SB-840 - the only health reform proposals worth my vote.

          by kck on Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 12:01:28 PM PST

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          •  I don't see a problem at all. (0+ / 0-)

            I think the numbers are irrelevant. Guess what? African-Americans are voting for a Democrat. You seem to think there is something significant about African-American voters voting for a Democratic candidate who happens to be of the same race.

            Are you also as concerned with why elderly Democrats seemed to have vote in much higher proportions for Clinton?

            •  If Hillary was getting 90% of the female vote (0+ / 0-)

              or only 10% of the male vote I would make the same observations. Yes, I would definitely say it's significant when any of our demographic groups votes along their own identity.  

              Are you also as concerned

              I didn't say I am concerned about it. I would say that I find it significant and interesting.

              By the way, at the State of the Black Union last weekend on CSPAN, this piece of demographic voting trivia got plenty of coverage. The entire day was excellent and there was no fear or discomfort there in discussing race a a factor in this election.

              HR 676 or California's SB-840 - the only health reform proposals worth my vote.

              by kck on Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 12:31:19 PM PST

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