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  •  "Black people ARE allowed to vote these days." (0+ / 0-)

    No we're not.  We should all vote for kck and Markus candidate, Hillary.

    KCK, that might be the most ludicrous point I've ever seen.

    So when white people vote its okay, but when black people vote it's not okay regardless of how each vote.  

    Why can't u face the music, you have a good candidate, but Obama is better.  You're candidate is losing.  Using your same logic, Bill Clinton had the majority og black support for years, were you complaining then?

    Save the closet racist remarks for yourself.

    •  Whoa, I didn't say anything like that. (0+ / 0-)

      What are you talking about? I made no value judgments. Of course whatever is, is okay. I'm didn't even remotely suggest that anything is not okay. I'm not being critical. Like I said above, I will enthusiastically vote for Obama.  

      HR 676 or California's SB-840 - the only health reform proposals worth my vote.

      by kck on Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 12:06:58 PM PST

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    •  Btw, you misread, or I need to clarify (0+ / 0-)

      Using your same logic, Bill Clinton had the majority og black support for years, were you complaining then?

      Of course, blacks have always trended Democratic. My comment was NOT about GEs  against Republicans, but within the party, in primaries. Are you aware of blacks, or any other demographic group voting in the primaries with such an amorphous outcome? I'm not.

      HR 676 or California's SB-840 - the only health reform proposals worth my vote.

      by kck on Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 12:35:36 PM PST

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      •  Your logic is flawed (0+ / 0-)

        Are you aware of blacks, or any other demographic group voting in the primaries with such an amorphous outcome? I'm not.

        Nobody says anything. Hillary had the entire woman vote and the latino vote (3 to 1, 4 to 1) locked up at first,  I didn't see you complaining then.

        In the end people are people.  They're going to vote how they want to vote.  To infer otherwise, or to infer that people are voting based on race doesn't make you look good.

        Using your logic, Jesse Jackson shoud have won way more primaries then he did.  

        Could it just be your candidate is not all that cracked up to be when you compare side by side to Obama?

        •  I have no idea how the real final data (0+ / 0-)

          will look or how it gets analysed. I'm not suggesting any conclusions. I recognize the historic qualities of this election.

          I didn't see you complaining then.

          I'm NOT complaining now. I'm not implying anything. You're inferring negativity  I did not say and do not mean. Can't you accept my clarification?

          Using your logic, Jesse Jackson shoud have won way more primaries then he did.

           I offered no analysis, no logic. This makes no sense.

          Could it just be your candidate is not all that cracked up to be when you compare side by side to Obama?

          Not exactly because whites are pretty evenly split across the two candidates and not trending to Obama by 90%. So no, there is a "black vote" in this election that is decisive. If 90% of the females voted for Hillary then I would make the same observation. I'm not touching the why's, just observing the fact of the demographic trend. We will, after the election, need to understand the depth and breadth of this topic though.

          What if 90% of the females voted for Hillary and she won with only 10% support from the men in the party. I would say we, as a party, need to digest that and understand how it influences us in the future. No?

          HR 676 or California's SB-840 - the only health reform proposals worth my vote.

          by kck on Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 01:01:16 PM PST

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