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  •  short version ... (1+ / 0-)
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    Duke1676

    ... of that idiotic response you have gotten:

    I am right because I am right and anyone who disagrees with me is a big poopy-head!

    This asshole is nothing more than a troll.  I'm getting tired of his bullshit.

    •  What part of this do you not understand (0+ / 0-)

      Any time you want to discuss the issue as opposed to posturing I am ready to roll.  My credentials, if you will, are a very good understanding of the economic principles in play here and that understanding is based on classical economics.  If you wish to actually debate the matter then do so.  If not then you can simply accept the points as I have made them.  Your translation of my position is quit amusing.  But I am right because classical economics is "right".  If you feel that neoclassical bullshit is the truth then I feel very sorry for you.  You are shooting yourself in the foot.

      "I know no safe depository for the ultimate power of society but the people themselves" -- Jefferson

      by TheTrucker on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 10:06:53 AM PST

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      •  There is no debate ... (1+ / 0-)
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        Duke1676

        ... with a fool like you.

        You answer factual information with bullshit opinions.  You make shit up as you go along.

        You seem not to understand the rules of this community.  Yes, we do require sources for the kinds of assertions you have made.  And no, you don't get to put down a source by calling the author a "liar" and other ad hom attacks.

        At this point I am not objecting to your nonsensical diary, which is not worth commenting upon -- it is a community matter -- you are new here (or a sockpuppet for all I know) and clearly do not understand you can't just assert your opinions as fact and refute facts with opinions.

        You have no credentials here.

        •  You lose (0+ / 0-)

          You answer factual information with bullshit opinions.  You make shit up as you go along.

          Perhaps you would like to show us where that has happened, Nightprowlkitty.  I looked at the references Duke used for his position that you seem to think serve as "factual information".  I can only surmise that since these statements are made by an "authority figure" that you respect then you will say that they are "factual".  The problem with that position is that I have pointed out where this supposedly authoritative person has condradicted the position taken by Duke.  It would seem that it is I who have the "factuals" and Duke who has the opinions.  Here is the EXACT quote from Duke's authroritative source that totally supports my position:

          "Simulations show that this increased specialization mitigated negative wage consequences of immigration for less-educated native-born workers, especially in states with large immigration flows."

          Perhaps you do not understand the English language.  The dispute has now gotten that simple.  You need no knowledge of economics to understand what the word "mitigated" means, or to understnd the pharse "negative wage consequences of immigration".  This is Duke's authoritative source and YOUR version of "factual information".  The problem appears to be that Duke, nor you, actually understand what your "factual information" says.

          It appears that Duke has used stuff he does not understand trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

          "I know no safe depository for the ultimate power of society but the people themselves" -- Jefferson

          by TheTrucker on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 07:21:51 PM PST

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          •  Well ... (0+ / 0-)

            ... I think Duke's response is very much on target:

            If you would like to have an intelligent and informed conversation about these economic studies, go read them then we'll talk. But as long as you insist on basing your entire argument on single paragraph synopses of lengthy and detailed studies intended merely to supply the reader with a vague idea about the study's contents..I've got no time for your idiocy ... no matter how many times you cut and past the same bloviating bullshit

            Duke has proved his credibility and knowledge on this subject.  You?  Not so much.

            I've read his diaries as well as visited his website.  His merit is well earned.

            It's not a win or lose kind of thing here at Daily Kos, and that's something you just don't seem to understand.

            It's about understanding issues and backing up what you say with credible sources.  You have done neither -- you admitted you hadn't read any of these studies and now you take one summary paragraph out of context and like a child wave it about going "I win!  I win!"

            You'll have to do a whole lot better than that to gain any credibility here.

            Poor you.

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