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  •  DELETE THIS DIARY PLEASE!. THIS IS BOGUS! (6+ / 0-)

    I am disappointed in Jeralyn. I read her link, and this is NOT a Texas Democratic party rule she is citing, it is a GUIDELINE established by the Travis County Democratic party.

    A GUIDELINE!

    Delete this diary please!

    •  Jeralyn's choice of sourcing is irrelevant. (0+ / 0-)

      The verbiage for the rules she cites from the Travis County Democratic Party website is consistent with a memorandum issued by the Texas Democratic Party.

      Participants may NOT begin signing in until the precinct convention has been called to order. The call to order may not occur until 7:15 p.m. OR whenever the last voter finishes voting at that polling location whichever is later. If, after the convention has been called to order and participants have signed in, any participant who wishes to leave may do so, and their sign in WILL count toward the delegate allocation for each candidate. Sign-In ends when the last person present waiting to sign in has done so.

      Them's the TDP rules.

      That said, anyone running a caucus who deliberately attempts to thwart the rules should be ashamed of themselves.

      "I'm getting reports" is no more evidence of breaking the rules than "some say."

      •  OK. But if the voters show up... (0+ / 0-)

        ...no harm no foul.

        •  No harm no foul as long as the alleged (1+ / 0-)
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          pre-signed sheets are not used at the precinct convention.

          NO ONE signs up before the convention is convened.

          •  If they hand in their own sheets... (0+ / 0-)

            ...it should be fine. If the idea is to force everyone to wait in line for a couple hours to sign in, I think that's infringing their voting rights. If you can save time by letting them fill out the sheets ahead of time, adn present them by hand at the begining of the caucus, why wouldn't you do that?

            Making the process byzantine and cumbersome seems to be a rather questionable thing to do, rules or no rules.

      •  And as I stated above: (1+ / 0-)
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        We are relying on a vague account of Obama workers asking voters to fill out caucus registration sheets ahead of time. For what purpose, we do not know for sure. It is asserted that they are going to present them as caucus votes without the caucus goer being present.

        But it may be that they are collacting these sheets ahead of time to do a later GOTV operation to get them back to the caucus location. It's a good way to get an advance head count.

        •  True. (0+ / 0-)

          And it's possible that it could be done by someone ill-advised of the rules with no malice intended.

          What matters is that any pre-signed sheets (real or imagined) not be accepted by the chairs and those numbers not be included in the calculations for delegate allocations.

          •  I disagree. (0+ / 0-)

            If the voter hands in their own sheet, it should count.

            •  As long as it was not filled out and signed (0+ / 0-)

              before the convention was called to order, I could see that.

              Article IV, Section B6 of Rules of the Texas Democratic Party clearly sets out the order of business and role responsibility at the Precinct Convention. The temporary chair is responsible for preparing the roll.

              I could see a temporary chair rejecting such a sign-in sheet and requiring the participant to sign-in on a common roll.

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