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  •  Factcheck selling out. Now that's just pitiful. (1+ / 0-)
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    David Boyle

    Lynch mob partipants volunteered, too.

    by cskendrick on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:40:30 PM PST

    •  now factcheck... a sellout? (4+ / 0-)
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      jen, ms in la, dannyinla, mcmom

      Who else will Bluestate throw under the bus in a frenzy of uber-partisan groupthink? Joe Wilson sucks, Wes Clark says "stupid" things, factcheck sells out... Naomi Klein must be next.
      Obama: Being Called a Muslim is not a Smear

      That diary was so disgustingly, overtly swiftboaty it should have been disavowed by the frontpagers, not celebrated & frontpaged.

      Sick stuff. Yuk it up. '

      Meanwhile Obama is becoming as overexposed as Rachel Ray!

      This community has lost its way & adopted rightwing framing & rightwing methods in a way that is beyond ironic. I'm sorry to see it.

      •  I too have wondered why there has been (3+ / 0-)
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        jen, ms in la, mango

        little said by the other FPers on this.  Perhaps they aren't interested in the charges. Perhaps their silence speaks volumes. Perhaps the agree and feel there is no need for additional voices on the subject. Perhaps they have chimed in and I just missed it.

        •  What's the cliche? (0+ / 0-)

          "When someone is hanging themselves, don't get in their way?" Something like that...

        •  What's the cliche? (0+ / 0-)

          "When someone is hanging themselves, don't get in their way?" Something like that...

        •  it's a failure of leadership. (3+ / 0-)
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          jen, ms in la, dannyinla

          this place has taken an unchecked & profoundly sinister turn, in my view.

          While we can & should be able to disagree on the merits of a particular candidate, what's happened here is some kind of weird internalization of Stockholm Syndrome meeting the borg meets nclb meets mass media meets mass dumbing down meets god only knows what.

          I think the only thing that can really explain it is the Stanford Prison experiment sometimes!!

          Obviously it is said to be an open forum & there is a high signal to noise ratio online or whatever but toxic sludge is another matter altogether.

          One of the coolest things Wes Clark did in his 04 run was just comment that Michael Moore has free speech just like anyone else when Wes was grilled by the press about Moore's remarks about w being a deserter.

          While the frontpagers can't be held responsible for what goes on in the depths & the dregs, it seems like a bad precendent to allow a blatantly race-baiting false debunked ON IT'S FACE STUPID inflammatory charge to the mix of an already Campaigns Gone Wild silly season.

          This will hurt Netroots Nation in the end & allow this place to be dismissed as mere shock jocks of the left in a way that is not gonna help any of us.

    •  Following the thread that Markos links to (5+ / 0-)

      includes two other kossacks who counter TocqueDeville's counterargument to factcheck.

      It is disappointing that Markos will not acknowledge the problems with his Clinton-campaign-made-Obama-blacker stance. He can still believe it was done on purpose, but to not acknowledge that the opposite is also true is eye-opening.

      It is turning him and this place into a laughing stock. For the first time, I am truly embarrased to be part of this site.

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