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  •  Not a Very Intelligent Diary Entry (4+ / 1-)
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    shpilk, Mr SeeMore, rigso, novayahavoc
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    fcvaguy

    Sen. Clinton is not dissing any states.  What she is trying to do is maintain the appearance of a continuing commitment to the remainder of the states in the race.

    However, neither intelligence, fairness or accuracy is any longer required in front page diary entries here on Daily Kos.

    I hope someone doesn't make me try to prove my skin color or whatever the new game is here now.

    •  you miss the point....... (6+ / 0-)

      do you want a party that only gives a shit about 14 states every 4 years or one that cares about 50 states every year.  

      •  I Don't Miss the Point (4+ / 0-)

        When a reporter asks, "Does the loss in XYZ state mean the end of the campaign," the Clinton people naturally respond that, no -- that loss was not significant, what is really important is upcoming state ABC.  This kind of front page post is foolish.  (Not as foolish as the current Recommended Diary where we are all committing suicide because of Billary, however.)

        Still, I wonder if it is sincere or not.  If sincere, foolish.  If insincere, well ...  OH MY GAWD THIS MUST STOP ... THIS MUST STAAAAAWWPP!

    •  How can you say that with a straight face? (2+ / 1-)
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      pletzs, MAORCA
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      Oh, wait, nevermind...you're a Hillbot...you can say anything with a straight face...

    •  Not a very intelligent response (0+ / 0-)

      What exactly is unintelligent about the diary? Every one of those quotes is exactly accurate and properly cited, in an extremely intelligent way. Let's put the BS aside... there are several "irrelevant" red states left, one of them tomorrow. You don't like the message. It makes you uncomfortable. So, you attack the diarist.

    •  All Hillary does (2+ / 0-)
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      TrueBlueMajority, MAORCA

      is remain true to herself.  She costumes her name with each election, and tramps her values when need be.  She is Wall Street, she is Big Money, she voted for the war, she supported the vote against Iran, and she will do whatever is necessary to achieve her goals.  She has more garbage in her past that she doesn't want us to remember.  And, we don't.  We like the crying, we like the sensitivity, and we feel touched.  Fools, we commoners.

      •  She Did Vote for the War (2+ / 0-)
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        That was her gambit ...  It was a huge risk and it turned out to be the wrong decision.  Politically, though, it meant that she is able to neutralize certain criticisms that the media will throw at our candidate.

        The media will paint John McCain as the National Security candidate ...  And then they will start to ask, "How will Clinton or Obama keep us safe from The Terrorists?"  Sen. Clinton will be able to say that she has never backed down from a militarist policy when it comes to defending the U.S.

        That is, sadly, the right answer to give the media.  Tell them anything else and they annihilate you.

        The problem is that Sen. Clinton's perceived hawkishness might mean that she can't get the nomination.  We might get an anti-war candidate instead whom the media will fight against as hard as it can, because "Obama won't keep us safe from terror."

        So, yeah.

        •  the only threshold those old fools crossed ... (0+ / 0-)

          was The Rubicon. We don't have to let the debate be framed by either the Necon's and their eternal state of fear, the important state formula that lost both 2000 and 2004, some dweeb who wants to vote for some marginal third party candidate, or a media that blithely reads every talking point put in front of them. A civil rights leader is good enough for me, who will preach to the good choir, who will load up the supreme court with judges who put human rights first. Yes, that's what I want in a president, someone who puts the little people first, community first, human rights first and that thoughtful candidate looks more and more like Obama. Since when did Hillary accept a resignation of an ivy league professor for name calling on her behalf, let alone have one as a volunteer? Some of us agree with her, the professor that is, seems to be the only problem - perhaps, some of us here on Dkos have been put on notice by Obama as well, think about that. The 50 state strategy has been tested, we won 2006 and Obama is winning with it now, let's put the pedal to the metal, GOTV and onward to the rest of those important states, every last one!!!

    •  The diss is in the . . eye . . ear? (3+ / 0-)

      of the  . .behearer . . sorta.

      I hear that my efforts don't count. "KANSAS WILL NEVER GO DEMOCRATIC." Nevermind that we have a Dem Governor, nvm that huge numbers turned out for our caucus and a large number of Independents and Republicans were vocal in their support of Obama.

      Now, I know what some peeps are going to say: that the non-Dems were there as spoilers, but it doesn't work that way. In lil ol rural Kansas, once you put yer face to something, it stays put, and ALL the Republicans in that room knew that they were defining themselves from that moment on.

      I have said before: tell us that we don't count, and we will find another party. There are other parties that would LOVE to have us.

      Of course, if it comes down to Clinton, her actually saying that will be redundant.

    •  BTW (0+ / 0-)

      This disgusting line:

      I hope someone doesn't make me try to prove my skin color or whatever the new game is here now.

      earned you an HR.

    •  Just out of curiosity (0+ / 0-)

      ...what was she saying about Mississippi?  

      Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

      by Barbara Morrill on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:13:02 PM PST

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      •  Exactly What She Said (0+ / 0-)

        That she was shocked that Iowa's record of voting for female politicians at the national level was as low as Mississippi's.

        A quick look at the gender gap for wages in Mississippi can give us some idea of the status of women in the state:

        A national report that shows the gender gap in the business world is still significant didn't come as a surprise to women in Mississippi working on improving the condition of the state's women.

        As bad as the figures are for the entire country, they are worse for Mississippi. The Institute for Women's Policy Research in its 2000 update of the Status of Women in Mississippi ranked Mississippi women as 48th in managerial and professional occupations and 51st in women's median annual earnings. The state also has the lowest percentage of women elected officials in the country.

        Marianne Hill, senior economist with the Institutions of Higher Learning, said census data shows that Mississippi women are more concentrated in certain low-paying traditional women jobs than other women in the South, or in the country. Traditional women's jobs include the secretarial, cashier/clerk, teaching and nursing professions.

        My guess is that Iowa simply does not have this problem to the same degree when it comes to what women can achieve in professional life.  I bet that Sen. Clinton is well-versed in these kind of statistics, since women voters were one of her target constituencies in the primary.

        When she and her team were plotting her strategy, you can bet that someone did research on the political history of all of the states and identified which ones had not elected a woman to national office.  Iowa and Mississippi were two states that had not done so.

    •  What's required to have a recommended (0+ / 0-)

      diary, or a 'rip roaring' FP post is to piece together "some-says", find 'experts' or 'authorities' to back up your assertionss, call some ansty names, stick on some labels, and let it rip.

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