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  •  I don't think she's said McCain > Obama (2+ / 0-)
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    on any other occasion.  Kossacks get a steady diet of anti-Hillary chum, so I know a lot of posters here accept negative things said about her at face value and without proof.

    But I haven't seen her elevate any Republican's credentials over a Democrat's before, and I hope I never see it again.

    If you are aware of any other case, I'm prepared to be corrected.  

    •  Hilzoy on the "threshold" quote with video (2+ / 0-)
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      Another link:

      Carpetbagger Report - she did it at least three times:

      At a press conference on Monday in Ohio, Clinton was defending her "3 a.m." ad, and told reporters, "I have a lifetime of experience I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he made in 2002."

      The pro-McCain comments were quickly and widely panned — so Clinton repeated them. James Fallows reported on Wednesday, "In a live CNN interview just now, Sen. Clinton repeated, twice, the ‘Sen. McCain has a lifetime of experience, I have a lifetime of experience, Sen. Obama has one speech in 2002′ line. By what logic, exactly, does a member of the Democratic party include the ‘Sen. McCain has a lifetime of experience’ part of that sentence?"

      That, too, was widely panned, leading Clinton to ratchet up the pro-McCain rhetoric a little more.

         "I think that since we now know Sen. McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that. And I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold," the New York senator told reporters crowded into an infant’s bedroom-sized hotel conference room in Washington.

         "I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy," she said.

         Calling McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee a good friend and a "distinguished man with a great history of service to our country," Clinton said, "Both of us will be on that stage having crossed that threshold."

      The only other member of the congressional Democratic caucus who praises McCain this much is Joe Lieberman.

      This is a DELIBERATE strategy . . .

      "Oh, come on, being human is overrated." -- Mark Penn

      by Bill White on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 02:36:29 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks for the link (1+ / 0-)
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        Those are very destructive comments, but after repeating them 3 times I don't know how she retracts them.

        It's a silly strategy for her to use, because neither of them can match McCain for experience.

        If anything, by doing this, it looks like she's taking a dive to ensure the nomination goes to Obama so that he can continue to campaign on "change".  Democrats do not want to hear their candidate praising someone who promises to continue Bush's policies--we saw how well that worked out for Lieberman in the Democractic primaries.

        If she continues that tack, I'm might start believing the party elders told her throwing this election (without being too obvious) is the best way to ensure a united Democratic party gets behind Obama in November.  If she outright quits, half of the party will be disappointed--but taking a dive by pulling a Lieberman, hmmmmm....

        •  Or maybe sabotage Obama in the general election (1+ / 0-)
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          With the expectation that he will lose and thereby discredit the entire "Change" agenda.

          Beltway insiders would keep their perquisites in that scenario.

          "Oh, come on, being human is overrated." -- Mark Penn

          by Bill White on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 03:27:07 PM PDT

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          •  I hope they're not that self-destructive (0+ / 0-)

            Democrats will be more divided than ever if we can't pull off some serious victories (downticket as well) in November!

            •  If there is a Globetrotters versus Generals (0+ / 0-)

              mentality (with K Street pulling the strings of BOTH parties) a bad result for Democrats in November could benefit behind the scenes players.

              Discredit the progressive "movement" and the DLC WINS even if we do badly in November.

              "Oh, come on, being human is overrated." -- Mark Penn

              by Bill White on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 03:51:24 PM PDT

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    •  from youtube, Hillary's (Mark Penn's) theme (1+ / 0-)
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      Ready to Xerox on Day One.

      by tmeyer on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 02:40:46 PM PDT

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