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  •  Don't think Obama ever said "immediately" (3+ / 0-)
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    I find an article suggesting that here, but if you read the actual statement, he says, "The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops." (Emphasis added.)

    Another article from around the same time interprets the same statement in the opposite way.
    "Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Monday if U.S. troops aren't out of Iraq by the time he's president, the first thing he'd do in office is order the Joint Chiefs of Staff to 'get a plan to begin withdrawing" troops from Iraq. He was careful not to say he'd try to bring troops home immediately."This will be a messy withdrawal,' Obama said. 'People who say we'll just pull them out are irresponsible.'"

    Seems pretty consistent to me.

    I'm an Obama supporter, but I'll still defend Clinton.

    by sxp151 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 01:26:08 PM PST

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    •  Then why has he repeatedly criticized Clinton ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... for NOT saying she'll bring the troops out immediately?  In fact, Clinton has always said pretty much what Powers said.  And Obama supporters have jumped all over her for it.

      Carolyn Kay

      •  Cite an example, please? (0+ / 0-)

        If he's criticized her unfairly, you must certainly have a link to an example of such an unfair criticism.

        •  It's in the POST. (0+ / 0-)

          He criticized her yesterday, in Wyoming.

          Carolyn Kay

          •  I asked for an example of unfair criticism. (0+ / 0-)

            What was unfair about what he said in Wyoming?

            She was quoted either this morning or last night in Mississippi because one of my advisors had said that in a interview overseas that well Senator Obama would not... he has given a time frame for withdrawal, but obviously it would be subject to decisions and the situation at the time.

            And so, Senator Clinton used this to try to imply that I wasn’t serious about bringing this war to an end. I just have to mention this because I don’t want anybody here to be confused.

            I was opposed to this war in 2002. If it had been up to me we would have never been in this war. It was because of George Bush with an assist from Hillary Clinton and John McCain that we entered into this war. A war that should have never been authorized, a war that should have never been waged.

            I have been against it in 2002, 2003, 2004, 5, 6, 7, 8 and I will bring this war to an end in 2009.

            So don’t be confused. Don’t be confused. When Senator Clinton is not even willing to acknowledge that she voted for war. She says she voted for diplomacy despite the title that said authorization to use U.S. Armed Forces in Iraq. So I don’t want to play politics on this issue because she doesn’t have standing to question my position on this issue.

            Looks accurate to me.

            •  The question was ... (0+ / 0-)

              ... When did Obama say he'd bring the troops home immediately.  I said, he has criticized Clinton for saying she doesn't know when the troops can come home, implying that he WOULD bring the troops home on a scheduled date.

              And I gave you the example of him saying it in Wyoming yesterday.

              Carolyn Kay

              •  I don't see the word or concept of "immediately" (0+ / 0-)

                ... anywhere in that statement.

                Are you magically mind-reading hidden meanings that aren't in the language again?

                C'mon, how about a little honesty for a change?

                You might find it refreshing!

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