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  •  As opposed to the Obama supporters (1+ / 1-)
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    who attack people for not supporting their little god. I have a right to my opinion, political and otherwise, however Obama supporters, including my own sister, have told me that if I can't see "the TRUTH", I should not vote. And you Obama supporters wonder why people think you are a cult. Well, it's because you act like one. And I am an Edwards supporter and am now supporting Hillary. Of course, that put me on the wrong end of the argument on this site. And gets me attacked and belittled by people who should know better. At least if they are over 12 they should. Don't say things like

    stuck in a cult where everyone must march in lockstep with The Goddess on every issue,

    if you are an Obama supporter, aka Obamabot. Because all it does is make you look like you think YOUR cult is fine, but not anyone else's.

    What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

    by Demfem on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 01:28:29 PM PST

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    •  So, it is not your opinion... (0+ / 0-)

      ... that a politician's advisers must agree in lockstep with the politician they are advising?  

      Good. We have progress.  

      Now, explain to me why it is bad -- as Carolyn has insisted in her diary -- that Obama's advisers do not agree in lockstep with the positions Obama has publicly advocated.

      •  No, but their public utterances should be (1+ / 0-)
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        similar. You know, advise in private, support in public. That sort of thing. Otherwise it looks like no one knows what the hell is going on, or what the policies are. And it makes the candidate look like a fool. Oh, my bad..sorry, forgot Obama is perfect. Must be his advisors' fault for not checking with him on what the current policy might be on any given subject. Or they aren't telling him what the policies are.  

        What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

        by Demfem on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 01:41:43 PM PST

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        •  When he's paying their salaries, I'd agree. (0+ / 0-)

          Until then, they are free agents.

        •  By the way, the advisers do not set policy. (1+ / 0-)
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          They advise.  Someone who acts as though something an unpaid adviser says is Obama's policy position is either ignorant or dishonest.

          Which are you?

          •  If all they are doing is advising, then (0+ / 0-)

            they shouldn't be making policy statements, which is what they are doing. Advising on policy and running one's mouth to the media about the policies are two entirely different things.

            What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

            by Demfem on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 02:27:04 PM PST

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        •  Advisors advise, candidates decide . . . (1+ / 0-)
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          Take the surge, for example.  This was a topic of public discussion over a year ago.  Clinton has advisors who took differing public positions on this - Jack Keane helped put the strategy together, Wes Clark didn't think it was a good idea because it wouldn't accomplish what it was supposed to do.  So, because she has different advisors with different positions on this, that means what?  Neither of these advisors have changed their minds on this, their positions are publically known and have been for along time, so your point seems moot. This isn't a matter of advisors having the same position as the candidates and if they don't not saying anything public about it, because Clinton has that same situation going on with some of her advisors, and everyone knows it, and it's not seen as her having one public position and a different one in private.  Same for Brennan and telecom immunity - he's one of many national security advisors for Obama, he has one position, others have a different position, and Obama is with those who say no to telecom immunity.

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