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  •  People like Mia (3+ / 0-)
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    Dori, miriam, psychodrew

    are the one of the reasons I am turned off by Obama.
    Rude name calling, juvenile behaviour.

    •  They're not all like Mia. (0+ / 0-)

      Some of the Obama supporters uprated my diary because they were appalled by comments by people like Mia.  One guy downthread wrote a very nice comment.

      Together, we will turn promises into action, words into solutions and hope into reality.

      by psychodrew on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 09:36:30 PM PST

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      •  I am sure there are some (1+ / 0-)
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        but the vast majority I have seen on here simply do not want to hear anything that isn't 100% positive about Obama.

        The Pew Poll points to some very serious problems that Obama is going to have to deal with.

        What some of his supporters don't seem to understand is, the GE is going to be very different.
        There won't be just Dems voting. And it won't be caucuses.
        And like it or not, McCain does appeal to Dems and Indies in large numbers.
        And according to the poll, McCain appeals to Dems far more than Obama appeals to Repubs.

        I find it strange that people like Mia call me names, deride my source and then when I find the original poll source.....crickets.

        •  WTF? (0+ / 0-)

          AJsMom, you posted the original poll source at 11:27.12:

          http://pewresearch.org/pubs/750/obama-lead-proble (2+ / 0-)
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          by AJsMom on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:27:12 PM CDT

          I acknowledged that your information was correct 2 minutes and 56 seconds later:  

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          Your information was correct.
          Samantha Power was right.
          by Mia Dolan on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:30:08 PM CDT

          3 minutes and 23 seconds later you responded to my comment (which you recommended):

          Mia (3+ / 0-)
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          Why would you automatically call me a Clinton shill?
          You don't know me, as far as I know we have never even talked on here.
          The poll does point to a problem that Obama is going to have to resolve before the GE.
          20% is a huge number.
          by AJsMom on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 11:33:31 PM CDT

          So why 11 hours later are you saying things like this:

          I find it strange that people like Mia call me names, deride my source and then when I find the original poll source.....crickets.

          Is a three minute delay in responding, in which I conceded you were right, crickets?  As a general rule, when someone sends me a link I go to the link and actually read it.  I am not sure that it would have been possible to do that and respond any faster than I did.  

          You can complain about my language, but do not accuse me of not responding when (as you acknowledge) I did so very quickly.  My criticism is not of all pro-Clinton diaries and comments.  As set forth in my other response to you this morning, your points are valid.  Psychodrew's points are not.  And when you defend crap like this diary, no one is going to listen to your valid points.  

          Samantha Power was right.

          by Mia Dolan on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 10:20:14 AM PDT

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          •  Sorry (1+ / 0-)
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            I wasn't talking about you on the crickets thing.
            I shouldn't have used your name as an example.
            I meant that I had a valid point, backed up by data and no one wanted to discuss that point or address how to fix it.

          •  Btw Mia (1+ / 0-)
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            I would like your honest opinion.
            If I diaried this, do you think it would generate a discussion or a pile on of me?

            Just curious what you think.

            •  Well (1+ / 0-)
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              I wouldn't "pile on" you. As I conceded, your point is a legitimate concern.  As abrasive and obnoxious as I am sometimes, I try to be fair.  I can't promise that everyone would, but I think you would get more of a discussion than this diary did.

              I started out supporting Edwards, and after he dropped out I wasn't sure at first who to support.  The kind of electibility issues you raise were a concern to me.  I concluded that I thought Obama was better and had a better chance to win, but it was a close call.  It is only over the last few weeks that I have become so down on Clinton because of her campaign tactics and the Florida/Michigan issue.    

              Samantha Power was right.

              by Mia Dolan on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 12:15:54 PM PDT

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      •  Wrong asshole (0+ / 0-)

        The uprates were because of the improprer troll rating, which I did not give out.  Thanks for lying again, though.

        My comments did a lot better than yours as far as recommends.  Even those who did not react as strongly as me still thought your diary was full of shit.

        Samantha Power was right.

        by Mia Dolan on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 10:05:18 AM PDT

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        •  This is Obama country (0+ / 0-)

          My comments did a lot better than yours as far as recommends.  Even those who did not react as strongly as me still thought your diary was full of shit.

          There are thousands of Obamacrats who come here to bash Clinton and high-five one another.  Your initial nasty comment got several hides as well, more than my diary did.

          As abrasive and obnoxious as I am sometimes,

          You really do yourself, and your candidate, a disservice with your nasty tone.

          Together, we will turn promises into action, words into solutions and hope into reality.

          by psychodrew on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 05:21:47 PM PDT

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