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  •  they may exist, but they don't count (0+ / 0-)

    because they were improperly cast under a process that was invalid and hence not fair--so don't count them.  It really is simple.

    Process matters--we are after all a society governed by the rule of law and not arbitary and capricious actions.

    Your persistent effort to put HRC votes from MI and FL in her column to calculate the total popular vote count is just patently without merit.  I am surprised you cannot acknowledge  because you otherwise seem more clear headed about all this.

    Rome is burning ... put down the fiddle.

    by ancblu on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 11:15:33 AM PDT

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    •  We're going in circles. (0+ / 0-)

      This is my view.  Clearly, those votes don't count toward the delegate count.  In the absence of another contest, you can't pretend those votes don't exist.  They do have a psychological impact on the race, even if they don't have any practical effect on the delegate count.

      Together, we will turn promises into action, words into solutions and hope into reality.

      by psychodrew on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 05:24:23 PM PDT

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      •  Fair enough and (1+ / 0-)
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        I won't push you any harder not to include these current votes in any total vote tabulation argument that benefits one or other of the remaining candidates.  As you correctly point out, they certainly do have psychological impact--look at you and me--and they don't presently have any practical effect on delegate count--except as motivation to figure out a solution that corrects the problem.

        I do appreciate our discussion.

        Rome is burning ... put down the fiddle.

        by ancblu on Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 11:36:19 PM PDT

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