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  •  Honest??? (1+ / 0-)
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    What is honest about smiling like you give a shit about the customer at McDonalds?

    I think you're not seeing the basic concept at play here.  This subthread started because someone quite correctly pointed out that, for example, being a lawyer can have as much of a debasing feeling as being a prostitute. We're all in this same boat, trying to find work that makes us feel good.  Your assumption that prostitution is any more degrading than any other job is your value, not everyone's.

    Experience teaches only the teachable. -Aldous Huxley // We have a Democratic Congress now and there's still no oversight. - Carl Bernstein

    by DontTaseMeBro on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 01:08:08 PM PDT

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    •  And by the way, I used to work on a farm (0+ / 0-)

      and don't mind shoveling shit myself!  But lots of people would find that beneath their dignity!

      get the picture yet?

      Experience teaches only the teachable. -Aldous Huxley // We have a Democratic Congress now and there's still no oversight. - Carl Bernstein

      by DontTaseMeBro on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 01:08:43 PM PDT

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    •  No, you read me wrong. (0+ / 0-)

      It's precisely that smiling and "faking it" that makes practically every job lower than ownership of million-dollar-and-up businesses akin to prostitution.  Workers are treated like sub-standard pieces of machinery that are inadequate by nature because they wear out, require rest, and give a damn about being honest or doing a good job instead of exactly, precisely, and only what they are told to do.  Shoveling shit is pleasant by contrast to lying, cheating, and especially "selling", which is the beating heart of our consumer-based junk-creating mass-marketing culture.  There's a reason we call certain behaviors "kissing ass".

      •  I didn't read you wrong. (0+ / 0-)

        you just repeated the same value-laden opinion:

        Shoveling shit is pleasant by contrast to lying, cheating, and especially "selling"

        I may disagree.  "Joe" may find shoveling shit to be a filthy, disgusting job.  Please consider the fallacy of assuming that your values are shared in relativity by other human beings.  That is the only point I'm trying to make.  I respect your values, even if I might not agree with them. You on the other hand seem to assume that your values are "correct."

        I know a really cleancut, healthy, well adjusted individual who provides sexual release to others for a living, along with a massage and yogic stretching.  Your labeling this not honest work, or bad for America, or whatever, is demonstrating your opinion, and I think it's a shame you don't get the part about relativity.

        I wouldn't label your values "wrong," I would simply not share the same values.  I wouldn't say your work is more or less "honest."

        Experience teaches only the teachable. -Aldous Huxley // We have a Democratic Congress now and there's still no oversight. - Carl Bernstein

        by DontTaseMeBro on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 06:11:45 PM PDT

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        •  Oh, well. (0+ / 0-)

          I really do consider dishonesty to be the single lowest form of human behavior.  And I know that some people don't agree with me, and think that killing is worse, or other forms of physical brutality, but I simply disagree.  And I'm completely comfortable with my value judgements; they are my values, and I think they're right!  So I think that any work that requires an individual to deny his or her core values or truths in order to survive is absolutely evil.  And you simply won't change my mind about that <smile>.

          Apparently your friend who offers sexual and other physical comforts is not straining his/her values in order to do so, and if they are not, I wouldn't consider it "prostitution".  Prostitution is selling your integrity, however you define it.

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