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  •  Michigan ballot (14+ / 0-)

    Here is some commentary of the Michigan ballot issue:

    FLINT -- Former U.S. Sen. Donald Riegle had harsh words for the only viable Democratic presidential candidate on Tuesday's primary ballot that he called "rigged" and a "manipulation by the Clinton machine."

    Riegle, who now lives in Washington D.C., stopped in his hometown of Flint on the eve of the primary Monday to encourage Democratic voters to vote "uncommitted" if they support a candidate whose name isn't on the ballot.

    That will help get delegates for the other candidates in the Democratic National Convention. Write-ins for candidates who withdrew names won't be counted.

    Riegle accused U.S. Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y of taking advantage of Michigan's early primary that broke convention rules by staying on the ballot after what he says was an agreement that all Democratic candidates withdraw names.

    "It reminds me of the old Soviet Union. This is a tactic that should not happen in a democracy," said Riegle, who also spoke in Detroit and Lansing the same day on what he said was "a scam ballot."

    "It's an absolute fraud. They very clearly waited until others had followed through with the agreement and then didn't follow through with it. This was not an accident. This is a very deliberate manipulation of the ballot."

    Edwards, Dodd, Obama and Biden all took their names off the ballot.

    •  Not the first time this happened with Michigan (3+ / 0-)
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      Gore and Bradley both removed themselves from the Michigan primary ballot in 2000 at the DNC's request.  Michigan had tried to intervene in the Iowa/NH mess.  What Obama, Edwards, etc. did was quite precedented.  
      •  Link documentation for this? (0+ / 0-)

        I have no recollection of that happening, and I live here.

        •  How the heck could you forget Lyndon LaRouche? (0+ / 0-)
          Oh wait...  he's batshit crazy.  Yeah, I could see why you might want to forget.  ;)

          Anyways, here's the primary results:

          Here's the results of the subsequent caucus (which was scheduled before the primary even ran):

          Here's some recent talk about it:

          It wasn't a big deal because Gore was widely expected to clean up.  I remember it mostly because I didn't like Gore at the time and would've voted for Bradley if I could've.  :)

          •  Ok. Here's the thing: (0+ / 0-)

            Michigan has had a state-sponsored presidential primary, with a Democratic side of the ballot, since 1972 or before... but the Michigan Democrats have always ignored it since 1980 and chosen delegates in caucuses (except for 1992, when the legislature passed a one-time registration law which made the primary acceptable to the national party).

            So if the Democratic candidates kept or took their name off the Michigan Primary ballot in 2000 (which is apparantly true), it was just "business as usual" here.  We never used that primary, because it was too "open" to satisfy DNC rules.... and no delegates were allocated through it.

            That's really not comparable to what happened this time, at all.

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