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  •  I tried to listen to Randy Rhodes (5+ / 0-)
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    frandor55, neroden, myboo, LaEscapee, Lisactal

    But I still can't understand why she thinks the constant insults to Hillary will do the party any good in the end.  Even if both candidates are being negative, we could still be positive - we could even show the pundits what we want by modeling it to them.  

    Why does support for Obama seem to be synonomous with hatred for Hillary?  I don't even think this is what Obama wants.  Is there any room to like both candidates but prefer one as a president better anymore?  

    I'm sure there are even some on the dkos site that feel this way.  I couldn't listen to her very long at all.  I felt like I was listening to Rush. But in all that time, I didn't hear any positive comments about Obama, just negative ones directed at Hillary.  

    I can only listen to Rachel Maddow or Ed these days.  

    I'm an Edwards Democrat!

    by invisiblewoman on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 08:33:05 PM PDT

    •  I'm pretty sure you are wasting your time (3+ / 0-)
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      I agree with what you are saying, but you should have seen the response to the diary referring to this. It seems a Democratic Representative from Oregon is out of bounds calling for issues to be discussed, and for both camps to focus on McBush instead of each other.

      I appreciated the manner in which you both conducted your campaigns during the early primary process. It was a manner that respected the other and tried to highlight policy differences without resorting to destructive smear campaigns.
      In the lead up to the March 4th primaries, the tone of both campaigns shifted and the civility that I had appreciated disappeared. The long term goal of beating the Republican nominee took a back seat to the short term goal of proving one's viability by tearing down the other Democratic candidate. We lost sight of the general election, we lost sight of the true opponent and if we continue to be shortsighted, I fear we will lose in November. The heated rhetoric between both campaigns has continued to intensify as we head into the Pennsylvania primary. While you trade barbs, McCain is uniting the Republican Party around his thinly disguised right wing agenda. In the next six weeks, McCain can sit back, amass his war chest, concentrate his base and delight as you deconstruct each other.

      I propose that you not allow him that luxury. You both claim to be better suited than the other to take on the so-called Straight-Talk Express, so prove it. Run the next six weeks of your campaign against McCain, not against the other Democrat. Go after McCain for his policy positions, not the other Democrat for theirs. Allow the Democratic voters to believe in a campaign that can provide a new direction for this country and stop McCain from continuing the failed policies of the Bush Administration. In the end, it is the candidate who can take the fight to McCain and win that deserves my support and, most importantly, the support of the Democratic Party.

      Edwards Democrats ActBlue LA-01, NC-08, IN-06, KY-01, NC-09, IA-03, WA-08

      by LaEscapee on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 08:56:09 PM PDT

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      •  I would agree, but (3+ / 0-)
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        There's only one candidate who's actually been behaving the way DeFazio complains about, and that's Clinton.

        Fake evenhandedness just insults Obama.

        -5.63, -8.10 | Impeach, Convict, Remove & Bar from Office, Arrest, Indict, Convict, Imprison!

        by neroden on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 09:01:24 PM PDT

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        •  There is the rub (2+ / 0-)
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          myboo, invisiblewoman

          How is anyone suppose to react? No matter which side anyone comes down on the half of the party who supports the other candidate will attack them. And whether anyone agrees or not with whatever has gone on, the fact remains that they have garnered virtually the same number of votes, and we will need those votes to win in November.

          A perfect example of this is a diary today reporting that Joe Trippi said he doesn't think John Edwards will endorse. Go read some of the comments tearing into JE, who isn't even in the race, and has stayed completely out of the limelight other than the two candidates going to visit him at his house. For this he gets pilloried around here.

          Somebody is going to have to say to both sides enough, but when anyone attempts just that, it either isn't enough or they are accused of being on the wrong side. So at some point people are going to have to get away from the histrionics and realize the nomination isn't the goal it is the WH.

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          Edwards Democrats ActBlue LA-01, NC-08, IN-06, KY-01, NC-09, IA-03, WA-08

          by LaEscapee on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 09:12:44 PM PDT

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