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    planetclaire4, RoscoeOfAlabama

    FLORIDA chose to disenfranchise Florida's voters.  As did Michigan with theirs. You play the victim card well there, but too bad, so sad, you lose.

    You state you had no problem Obama's electABILITY until recently, but all I read from you is HRC talking points.

    •  The DNC disenfranchised FL's voters (1+ / 0-)
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      Fast Pete

      Florida voted and millions went to the polls. True or not? Funny how Obama's supporters who sing democracy's virtues when it helps Obama, conveniently overlook its virtues when the result goes the other way, as in Florida and Texas. If Obama is so clearly electible, why the poor performances in so many important swing states? Why the pathetic level of support from Hispanics and working class white voters. Yes, Hillary may have her problems with black voters but Obama has his own serious problems. With each passing day, my doubts grow that Obama can correct his problems. And his inept handling of the Rev. Wright matter just doesn't inspire my confidence that the man has the chops to handle the Republican attack machine.

      •  The DNC told FL ahead of time (1+ / 0-)
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        EntrWriter

        if they pushed their primary up before Feb. 5, they'd lose their delegates.

        Guess what FL did?  Pushed their primary up anyway.

        Guess what the DNC did?  Exactly what they said they would.

        If this were a sporting event, Team Clinton would get laughed off the field for this kind of shit ("What do you mean we switch sides after 3 outs?  That is patently unfair, and it disenfranchises players that are lower in the batting order.  I say we wait it out until all 9 players get a chance to bat, and then we'll decide who really won this inning.").

        There are people who say, "If music's that easy to write, I could do it." Of course they could, but they don't. - John Cage

        by RoscoeOfAlabama on Sat Mar 15, 2008 at 12:31:13 PM PDT

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        •  So no voice at the convention? (1+ / 0-)
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          Look the voters of Florida had no choice in the matter. They voted on the day set aside to vote. Yes, you, Obama and the DNC can be a hardass about this and the sanctity of the rules but face the fact that millions of Floridians voted and a strong majority preferred Hillary. Explain your defense of the holy DNC rulebook to FL voters when McCain and the Republicans bring this up again and again in the fall.

          •  Solution: new primary. (0+ / 0-)

            It's already in the works.

            (And, frankly, I don't think that many general election voters really lose sleep over DNC rules.)

            Oh, and as for your "strong majority of Floridians prefer Clinton" bullshit, no one in their right mind goes out and votes for a primary when they're told it won't count.  Those voters were going out for an unrelated ballot proposition (which primarily affected senior citizens, a demographic that favors Clinton).  

            Add that to the DNC ruling prohibiting campaigning (in which the candidates would have a chance to introduce themselves beyond mere name recognition), and the January 29 contest does not reflect the will of Florida Democrats.  A DNC sanctioned revote, however, would.

            There are people who say, "If music's that easy to write, I could do it." Of course they could, but they don't. - John Cage

            by RoscoeOfAlabama on Sat Mar 15, 2008 at 02:59:02 PM PDT

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              RoscoeOfAlabama

              There is likely to be NO do-over in Florida.

              YoGo, sorry but the Republicans stripped Florida of half their delegates and held the primary anyway.  Don't walk in here uninformed, it makes you look like a fool.

              You're better off getting away with this BS meme over on MyDD than here.  PLEASE.

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