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  •  There is a sufficiently (0+ / 0-)

    large faction that believes all land Israel occupies is "illegally occupied".  

    Israel would probably tell you that most of what it occupies is legal because it was taken in an ongoing war and is necessary for self-preservation.

    It is not so cut and dried for either side that Israel could pull back to any border and both be recongized and safe in the region.  

    I assure you if this diary gets any more traffic, you will see the comments here veer towards the "Israel has no right to be there to begin with because 4,000 years ago blah blah" argument.

    "Balance" does not mean giving the same weight to a lie as you do to the truth.

    by delphine on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:07:34 PM PDT

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    •  plenty in Israel would say differently (1+ / 0-)
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      Some in Israel will say the occupation is legal, and I suspect that a significant number of those folk are as rabidly anti-Arab as some Arabs are anti-Israel.  Some in Israel will say that the occupation is illegal.  Many on both sides want a just peace, recognizing the pre-1967 war boundaries.  Of course there will be some of those comments you're alluding too, but that's no reason not to have this discussion.  

      Occupations, by their very nature, are not exactly popularity contests.

    •  Sure there are people believe this, but what they (1+ / 0-)
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      are actually going to do about it is another matter. Hamas has made offers for talks about a ceasefire, but the Israeli government will not talk to them until they declare ceasefire and formally recognize Israel. Of course, when you talk to one party and make agreements with them, you have recognized them, and Likud's party platform opposes a sovereign Palestinian state; I would say this issue is less important than it's made out to be.

      This interview with Shlomo Ben Ami, the former Israeli Foreign Minister and Minister of Public Security in Ehud Barak administration, is informative and excellent. He advocates talks with Hamas.

      Whenever we dumb down the political debate, we lose. -Barack Obama

      by klizard on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:23:13 PM PDT

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