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  •  Sell Texas to Canada? (none)
    Perhaps we could offer a joint package of Southern (Cajun) Louisiana and Texas to Quebec at a cut-rate price??

    Of course, Texas just passed the point where Whites are now less than 50% of the population, so Mexico is probably a better market. Both Houston and Beaumont are better seaports than anything Mexico has.

    It won't matter, though. In a generation Mexico, the US and Canada will be as combined as Europe is now, with almost total free movement of populations and economic goods. [Quebec will then be a problem to ALL of us, not just the Canadians.]

    •  We'll take (none)
      New Orleans, sure, gladly. The rest of Louisiana... meh, perhaps. But Texas, no way. What are you trying to do, destroy us?

      Tell you what -- how about we give you Alberta, and we take New England in trade?

      If a landslide falls in the bit bucket... was there an election?

      by Canadian Reader on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 01:03:54 PM PDT

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      •  An offer ... (none)
        Hey, we can give you a good deal, and your oil guys in Calgary can communicate with our oil guys in Houston over steaks.

        And, uh, New Orleans isn't part of Cajun (French-speaking) Louisana. Don't know what it is, actually. There is even has a portion that has an accent like the New Yorkers (Bronx? Apparently it has an Irish base.)

        When I worked for Social Security in New Orleans, the first question on the retirement claim form was "Have you ever been outside of the United States?" At least once a week I'd get a puzzeled look and the comment "Well, I've been to Mississipi [the state next door] once." There are a lot of people in New Orleans to whom there is nothing outside the city that is any more real than the stories on TV.

        Mostly Cajun country is just the swamp country around the Atchafalaya River and the mouth of the Missippi. Great coffee, good food, and if you want entertaining politicians, you might want to get Edwin Edwards out of prison.

        I'm not sure if it is apocryphal, but he once ran on the slogan "Vote for the crook. It matters." He won, too. [What I am not sure of was whether the slogan was approved. But it was really out there.]

        Cajun country would make a great "kicker" when you decide to buy Texas. If you really want New Orleans too, we can talk. They probably would never notice the change.  

        •  NY accent in New Orleans (none)
          Yes, the accent you referred to is indigenous to the Irish Channel and Ninth Ward neighborhoods in New Orleans, memorialized in the novel "Confederacy of Dunces".
        •  Sorry. (none)
          We're not taking Texas. Not even if you throw in Molly Ivins. We've managed to keep our own Albertan Texas-wannabes mostly under control, but that's only because we outnumber them. No way we'd let them have reinforcements.

          Cajun country, that's another story. We could be convinced... good food, great music. Though what they speak isn't quite French.

          But New Orleans. Now there's a city to fall in love with. My son lives there. So I know about the accent. And the cooking, both Cajun and Creole. And the graveyards, and the Quarter ghost stories, and the terrific jazz, and the krewes, and Saint Expedite, and the voodoo temples. The gang wars, and the murder rate. The way people roll their eyes at the mention of Anne Rice. And corrupt politicos unblinkingly taken for granted.

          "Vote for the crook. It's important." I remember that. It was a rallying cry in 1991, for those who wanted to make sure David Duke didn't get to be governor.

          If a landslide falls in the bit bucket... was there an election?

          by Canadian Reader on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 02:18:36 PM PDT

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          •  OK. New offer (none)
            We'll let you have Southern Louisiana, including New Orleans, if you'll take Texas. And to sweeten it, you don't have to take Dallas or Houston. We'll let them secede, build large fences around them, and we are all safer. Those two cities are the main source of the conservative infection. I'm sure they'd go along to avoid annexation by Canada anyway.

            Think of it - warm weather you can move to during the Winters. With Austin. What more could you ask??

            •  You have a point there. (none)
              The Texans we wouldn't want, would despise any suggestion of joining Canada.

              Okay, tell you what...

              Hold a referendum in Texas -- with a clearly worded question, of course. Track the votes by Congressional District, and let any C-D where a majority wants to join Canada, do so. That... would surely result in the most topologically interesting international border anywhere in the world.

              We could call the new territory Espagueti.

              If a landslide falls in the bit bucket... was there an election?

              by Canadian Reader on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 07:19:49 PM PDT

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              •  Using Diebold voting machines (none)
                It'll take a little while to set up. I'll need to be sure I understand how to properly program the machines.

                This is Texas, you understand. Tell me how the election should turn out, hand me the money, and you've got it.

                First I need to hack into Tom Delay's PACs....

                I'll get back to you.

                •  No, no. Forget Diebold... (none)
                  You couldn't ever be sure that someone else wasn't hacking the system too.

                  Do it Canadian style. Paper ballots. A circle for "Yes," a circle for "No." Give voters a pencil and tell them to hand-draw an X in one circle. Count the ballots manually, and any ballots you'd prefer not to count, you disqualify as "spoiled". This simple, straightforward system is traditional in Canada for referendums about sovereignty. There are plenty of people in Quebec who could help you set it up.

                  If a landslide falls in the bit bucket... was there an election?

                  by Canadian Reader on Sat Sep 04, 2004 at 10:21:45 AM PDT

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                  •  Actually I had the Florida 2002 system in mind (none)
                    Two hacks. One in the machine, a second during transmission to the central system. Double check that the result turned out correctly, then publish it.

                    Two weeks later you announce that all the voting results have been accidently erased.

                    Tight control all the way through.

                    •  Diebold has it under control (none)

                      What I hadn't read until after I posted the above message was this.

                      Consumer Report Part 1: Look at this -- the Diebold GEMS central tabulator contains a stunning security hole.

                      Submitted by Bev Harris on Thu, 08/26/2004 - 11:43. Investigations Issue: Manipulation technique found in the Diebold central tabulator -- 1,000 of these systems are in place, and they count up to two million votes at a time.

                      By entering a 2-digit code in a hidden location, a second set of votes is created. This set of votes can be changed, so that it no longer matches the correct votes. The voting system will then read the totals from the bogus vote set. It takes only seconds to change the votes, and to date not a single location in the U.S. has implemented security measures to fully mitigate the risks.

                      This program is not "stupidity" or sloppiness. It was designed and tested over a series of a dozen version adjustments.

                      But of course, I am merely a hobbiest programmer. Obviously the professionals at Diebold have figured it out before I did.

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