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  •  looks good byron (2+ / 0-)
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    of course i'll be rooting for your win.

    Billion dollar presidential campaigns are for losers.

    by john de herrera on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 07:39:17 PM PDT

    •  You know.. (2+ / 0-)
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      ...its a tough row to how unseating an incumbent, but with a little peremptory messaging who know what could happen...

      Thanks for the well wishes

      •  i was curious about your plans for tax relief (3+ / 0-)
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        can you comment on that?

        Billion dollar presidential campaigns are for losers.

        by john de herrera on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 07:47:20 PM PDT

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        •  Tax relief... (3+ / 0-)
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          ...for folks who contribute to the health of our economy, earn medium to lower end wages, and yet because they earn a paycheck are penalized immediately by having funds stripped from their check before they even get a chance to 'see it'.

          I will propose a permanent economic stimulus through tax relief by reforming the payroll tax. By putting the first $30,000 of wages earned into the pockets of the folks who’ve earned it, we will immediately inject billions into the economy spent for rent, food, car payments, etc. This tax relief for lower and middle income wage earners will be paid for by removing the artificial regressive ceiling on the Social Security tax.

          Right now if you earn 100,000 dollars in wages you pay six thousand and some change into FICA -- if you earn 20 million in wages, you pay the SAME six thousand and some change into the pay roll tax. This is not fair. This is a massively regressive tax, I will raise the artificial cap on this tax.

          Great question, thanks!

          •  first 30 grand into the pocket? (2+ / 0-)
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            nice one.

            again, i'm rooting for your win. if it happens, please draw up legislation to standardize The Vote. congress should draw up plans for the official u.s. voting unit and mandate vendors build them to spec. this will immediately reduce many points of failure which cripple elections.

            cheers to you.

            Billion dollar presidential campaigns are for losers.

            by john de herrera on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 08:02:52 PM PDT

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            •  Wow, you hit one of my key planks... (2+ / 0-)
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              ...thanks for your patriotism, John.

              Folks that care as much as you do about saving our republic from descending into an abyss of unbridled corruption, give me hope -- it's your non-compromising attitude that strengthens my resolve to carry this fight on.

              ... an excerpt from my speech at Liberty Hill

              The First Amendment that we are here to honor is in danger.

              Threatened by a cabal of legal wizards casting spells comprised of legalese summoning illusions to obfuscate their dangerous and outright violations of our Constitution.

              Justifying torture.

              Overturning a vote.

              Which brings us to another doctrinal crisis in our midst – which is the gross absence of any Constitutional language securing the basic foundations of our representative democracy: the vote.

              The cornerstone of our republic.

              Folks, today one of our most sacrosanct institutions -- our electoral system -- is under attack.

              It’s under attack by the fact that the proprietary source code that instructs the voting machines as to how to count the vote is being held in private hands.


              More than 1/3 of all votes cast in our nation are made on touch screen machines driven by proprietary source code – 90% of all votes cast are counted by software that’s unverifiable.

              All the political wrangling and policy punditry that we spend our time, heart and soul upon becomes rather academic if we cannot tell who is voting for whom – or who is voting for what.

              Today voting standards are as wide and varied as the States are themselves, when you walk into a Home Depot in St. Louis Missouri and buy a 2 x 4 it’s the same size 2 x 4 you would buy at a Home Depot in Los Angeles – a dollar in New York is the same dollar in Sacramento.

              Consider this -- overnight we’ve seen how ATM machines and UPC Barcode became an everyday fixture in our lives and in our economy – let’s use that same stimulated motivation to secure and standardize the American voting experience.

              Why shouldn’t our vote be counted as religiously as the IRS counts our tax dollars?

              Worthy of a constitutional amendment is the shoring up and protection of our most direct means to affirm the peoples will into our vaunted corridors of power.

              The 28th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States should coalesce all the different methods of counting our vote into one national standard – and guarantee the independent verification of ballot results.

          •  The top rate used to be 91%, should we return to (2+ / 0-)
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            91% ?


            FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

            by Roger Fox on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 08:18:37 PM PDT

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            •  You know... (2+ / 0-)
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              ...I think addressing the biggest tax injustice in the form of the regressive payroll tax is first on my list. I do not think we need to raise the top tax bracket to 91% -- cutting the loopholes and subsidies to industries unfavorable to the better long term interests of our country is the area I see in most legislative disrepair.

              There is an agenda afoot to serve special interests at the expense of most Americans, preserving our addiction to oil, giving tax breaks to Corps. outsourcing good jobs; these are the ‘money and land grabs’ happening right under our noses that have to be halted.

              Great issue raised Roger – BTW fixed the title.

              •  payroll taxes plus (1+ / 0-)
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                My Parents got thru the Depression with a progressive income tax, we won WW2 with a progressive income tax. The 12 million men & woman that served in the military in WW2 came home, the GI Bill sent vets to college, and they started families. This created the largest, most vigorous and the best educated middle class, in the history of the planet. Labor unions were at the zenith of their power, our educational institutions were the envy of the world, corporations made money, the wealthiest made money.

                All of this happened with a top rate of 91% to 70%.

                Thomas Jefferson said in a 1785 letter to James Madison, "Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise."

                Progressive taxation engages the middle and working classes in the economy. Regressive taxation taxes the middle and working classes out of the economy. I think you undervalue the importance of progressive taxation vs payroll tax impacts.

                FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

                by Roger Fox on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 08:51:20 PM PDT

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              •  And lets separate FICA from payroll (2+ / 0-)
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                in the discussion. . FICA is regressive, sure, absolutely. How is the rest of the payroll tax regressive ?

                FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

                by Roger Fox on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 08:53:19 PM PDT

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                •  Progressive taxation... (1+ / 0-)
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                  ... is a basic tenet, and what I consider to be a core American principle.

                  Thomas Paine argued for it vociferously in Rights of Man in 1791. He pratically named our nation.

                  The Soc Sec portion of FICA is the regressive 'sore thumb' if you will. This is the one that I'm speaking on in regard to wages and my permanent economic stimulus above.

                  I agree with Jefferson points you raise -- great quote -- if you're contributing to our society and the health of our economic infrastructure, say being a janitor at a high school, working year after year, you deserve to have social security. Even if you were only earning 20k a year, I think we should give that employee portion of FICA -- the 6.2% employee portion -- to the employees that've earned it. And still guarantee their Soc Sec.

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