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  •  NYTimes Report? (0+ / 0-)

    Basing your claim that there was no theft of the 2002 election in Baldwin County on a simple refutation of one graph in the academic analysis seems quite inadequate in itself.

    I was the New York Times reporter in Bay Minette after the election controversy, so the reporting for the Gettleman story you reference was mine. He was in a motel room in Montgomery.

    And as I reported in the story that first unearthed and published the Gundlach results:

    I suspected fraud and was prepared to work my sources at that time and investigate. But since Siegelman basically conceded, I was pulled out of Bay Minette by the Times and sent back home to New Orleans.

    How the 2002 Election Was Stolen in Bay Minette

    Without the benefit of a recount, which we will never get now, we can never know for sure. And that's sort of the point, don't you think?

    You have to ask yourself: Who benefited from NOT investigating what really happened?

    •  excuse me, but did you read the diary? (0+ / 0-)

      It's an odd representation to say that I base my "claim that there was no theft of the 2002 election" on "a simple refutation of one graph in the academic analysis."

      If you aren't interested in whether "the academic analysis" holds up, that is your prerogative. But what you offer here is a bait-and-switch.

    •  sorry, obviously you pushed a button (0+ / 0-)

      I have no problem with the observation that there should have been a recount. (I don't know enough about Alabama election law to comment on what the attorney general did.) And I certainly have no problem with your having been suspicious, and remaining suspicious.

      My problem is that some people, including Mark Crispin Miller, are saying without reservation that the election was stolen. And while Gundlach may not be saying that*, he has said some other things that I don't think stand up to scrutiny (along with some that do, and some that I'm not sure about).

      *He did write in his paper, "When Baldwin County reported two sets of results, it was clear to me that someone had manipulated the results." I think that's actually rather bizarre, especially in a conference paper. It's common for unofficial results to change; it shouldn't be "clear" from that alone that someone has "manipulated" the final totals.

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