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  •  Wait, what (0+ / 0-)

    Doesn't state law in most of the states already require licensing and registration? I don't see why, generally speaking, that handguns, fully automatic weapons of any kind or maybe also sawed-off firearms should not need to be registered and that one should not need a license to purchase them.

    "I decided to force-feed him, but he wouldn't eat... I hated myself for making him eat, but I hated him more for not eating."

    by Shaviv on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 01:04:52 PM PDT

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    •  Full auto and sawed off already (1+ / 0-)
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      unavailable federally. for handguns, existing State laws are all over trhe board.

      Vote Republican on November 5th.

      by ben masel on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 01:23:06 PM PDT

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      •  I thought sawed-off arms were available (0+ / 0-)

        with a collector's license or something, same for full auto. No?

        "I decided to force-feed him, but he wouldn't eat... I hated myself for making him eat, but I hated him more for not eating."

        by Shaviv on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 01:29:35 PM PDT

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        •  Backwards. (1+ / 0-)
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          Full auto (Pre 19030s) with collectors license.

          Vote Republican on November 5th.

          by ben masel on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 01:35:39 PM PDT

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          •  Purchase of a fully-auto (0+ / 0-)

            or select-fire arm requires the completion of a background check (quite detailed), the signature of your local Chief Law Enforcement Officer (Chief of Police or Sheriff, depending on where you live), and the payment of a $200 tax to the Feds. That's been the case since the 1930s, and nobody who has gone through that process has ever used the firearm in the commission of a crime.

            But here's the rub:

            The firearm must be on the BATFE's Class 3 registry, which has been closed to new firearms since May 1, 1986. What this has done, unsurprisingly, is to drive up the purchase price of such firearms, since the supply is limited by law.

            The background checks haven't gotten more detailed, the tax hasn't gone up, it's just that the guns themselves have gotten more expensive. Like, over $10,000 for a pre-86 M16A1 that would probably sell in the 2-3 thousand dollar range absent the listing restrictions.

            I suspect that this was the purpose of the law.

            --Shannon

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