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  •  Of course you shouldn't count caucus states. (2+ / 0-)
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    cookiesandmilk, funmerlin

    HRC says that MoveOn intimidated her voters at caucuses.  It would be wrong to let any such tainted procedure be used.

    Also, Bill says that Obama 08 played the race card.  Using the race card taints the votes of people who belong to a race, and therefore I'd leave out the votes of blacks.

    I imagine her as some sort of secret agent dodging bullets and then having professionalism to take media hit rather than reveal things she can't reveal.

    by Inland on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 12:30:17 PM PDT

    •  Don't count ANY votes... (1+ / 0-)
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      Liberal Pagan

      That were not for HRC. Only her votes count and when they don't add up, they won't count either. The Super Delegates should ignore her votes and vote forher anyway. Is anyone else getting this? I'm confused and I just said it.

      •  You know....elections and democracy just suck. (0+ / 0-)

        The problem is, we've been looking at these elections as if anyone ought to give a flying fuck what anybody wants.  HRC is right.  There's no such thing as a pledged delegate, every delegate votes the way they feel like, and we stop pretending like it's up to anyone but the smoke filled room.  It's a travesty that the people are allowed to think they count, and it's making a problem.

        HRC more electable? In the universe where the Obama wears a goatee, maybe. Not in the one where she's Tuzla'd herself.

        by Inland on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 12:41:08 PM PDT

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        •  She's right only if there is no such thing (0+ / 0-)

          as "good conscience" which is the legal requirement in Texas, and Pennsylvania, and in many other states I suspect. Delegates are legally required to vote in good conscience in accordance with the preference of the voters that elected them.

          Does Hillary Clinton know the meaning of the term "good conscience?"  Does she care?

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