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  •  I suppose "the sky is falling" (0+ / 0-)

    too.  I am a Hoosier, and believe that the state has gone way out of the way to make certain that everyone has a chance at an ID and a chance to vote.

    This is a reasonable requirement, not the end of democracy as we know it.

    •  I guess you're not Black & poor! (14+ / 0-)

      There is has never been a need for ID card in the past except to keep peopl FROM voting so why do we need them now. I'll tell you why Karl rove and his goons dreamt this nonesens up as a way to keep the little people from voting. Many people are wary of the "MAN" and won't vote because their afraid of what will happen if they apply for an ID. They use to have simular laws in the south to keep blacks from voting. You need to get up to date on racism in american history.

      Disabled Viet Vet ret. My snark is worse than my bite

      by eddieb061345 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 08:58:01 AM PDT

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      •  It's their own fault being poor and black, isn't (1+ / 0-)
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        it?

        just joking, but you know that is how Republicans really think.

        Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

        by DefendOurConstitution on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:00:37 AM PDT

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      •  Way pre-dates Rove (0+ / 0-)

        Sorry, but this issue has been around WAY before Karl Rove was in power.

        It's a legitimate question to ask "Without identification, how do we prove that the person is in fact who they say they are when they ask for a ballot?"

        In my state, they are forbidden to ask for ANY identification--not a power bill, not a photo ID, not anything. We are told to state our name and address, and even when I hand them my driver license, they still make me STATE this info as per the rule. I could quite easily walk in and give someone else's name and address and vote in his place--how can this be stopped?

    •  only if (4+ / 0-)

      the free id's are available at the polling place on the same day. But they're not going to do that. This was part of a nationally coordinated Republican attack to disenfranchise poor people.  It goes with the deletions to the voter rolls and the U.S. Attorney prosecutions of imaginary Democratic only voter fraud.  Now it's been certified by the most Republican of Supreme Courts. And you don't see a problem?

    •  I am sure you will donate a few thousand (3+ / 0-)
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      dollars to a new fund I am going to start to  rent wheelchair vans and get disabled and sick people photo ids.

      I guess these people are not part of "everyone" huh?

      can you send me your email?

      •  How about getting those people to the polls? (0+ / 0-)

        That's at least as difficlt for the people you mention as getting the free state ID.

        •  much easier (4+ / 0-)

          we, like many states have vote-by-mail.  but we dont have photo-id-by mail.

          Voting is free, but photo ids cost $25.
          I tried to help one elderly woman get a photo id before the last election, and she would have had to wait 12 weeks and pay $40, or get the "rush"  3 week option which cost over $80.

          The crazy thing is many of the people I know have state-issued medicare cards. They have social security cards. But since they dont drive, they dont have photo id.

          Reasonable laws allow these things as proof of id.

          And therein lies the rub, and shows the true intent of laws like this.  It's not to prevent voter fraud, which doesnt exist anyway.

          It's to prevent the problem of "voting while student" or "voting while disabled and elderly"

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