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  •  Doesn't it bother you? (2+ / 0-)
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    WillR, bootes53

    But if they wanted to, anybody could do this (including Republicans).  If Rush Limbaugh pointed out tomorrow how easy this would be, wouldn't that bother you?  If you think that some Republicans would do anything to see their candidate win, I would think you would be concerned about this.

    •  It doesn't bother me for the simple reason (1+ / 0-)
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      that it doesn't occur.  Put yourself in the other person's shoes:  would you take the chance of impersonating someone else at the voting booth?  Isn't that a felony?  Are you such a master of disguise that you think you could get away with it?  How long would it be before you got caught?  Would the potential prison sentence (the risk) be worth trying to throw an election (a negligible benefit, at best)?

      I'm willing to bet you wouldn't, and that you're clear-thinking enough to know it.

      You're throwing up a strawman here.  Think twice.

      If we're not willing to boldly refute the lies, the lies will stand as truth. (-6.75, -6.72)

      by cn4st4datrees on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:07:56 AM PDT

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      •  Risk is Low (1+ / 0-)
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        Where I live, there are zillions of people at the polls for a presidential election.  If I stand in a line being serviced by someone I don't know, the chances of me being caught vary between little and none.  It's not like they shout out your name when they hand you your ballot.  They just ask your name, check you off, and hand you your ballot.  Probably the reason this does not appear to be a big problem now is that folks are getting away with it nondetected.  And even if they do catch you, you can just say that the poll worker must have misheard you, or that you thought he or she asked you something else. No one is going to convict you of a felony for being confused. The only way it would be detected is when/if the person being impersonated turned up go vote -- and by that time, you'd be long gone and your vote would be counted.

        •  Signature fraud. (0+ / 0-)

          When you sign in at a polling station, you have to sign your name. That signature could be compared to one at the board of elections; and if they don't match, you go to jail.

          Besides, if someone really wanted to cast fraudulent ballots, would it be that hard for them to get Barbara Bush Special Fake IDs?

          A more accurate moniker might be... the Loch Ness Social Anxiety Creature. -Satchel, Get Fuzzy.

          by Judge Moonbox on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 06:58:48 PM PDT

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      •  How can you say "It's never happened" (0+ / 0-)

        It's nice that you are so dead-certain that nobody has ever impersonated someone else and gotten their ballot!

        So maybe nobody has impersonated someone who later walked in, only to be told "you've already voted", but imagine how many times people impersonate someone who is registered but simply doesn't vote? I have several friends who are registered but--as I can find out easily on online records--have never voted. It would be a cinch for me to go in and claim I was any one of them, vote in their place, and never have it detected, because they don't vote in the first place.

        For that matter, how do you know people aren't registering under fake names, then voting under all of them? Most localities allow you to register by mail, with no "proof" required, so someone could register under 10 different names and vote under every one of them--yet it would never get detected, so in your eyes, I guess that means "it's never happened".

    •  Not in the least. (0+ / 0-)

      I try not to worry about things that will never happen.

    •  What does bother me. (0+ / 0-)

      If someone posing hypothetical questions was able to abridge your right to vote, would you feel their concerns were legitimate?? The near-total absense of actual cases shows that existing deterrants ae quite sufficient to keep people from polling place voter fraud.

      On the other hand, how DO you feel about your side losing a race by 537 votes out of 6 million cast because legitimate voters were kept from the polls by bogus disqualifications?

      A more accurate moniker might be... the Loch Ness Social Anxiety Creature. -Satchel, Get Fuzzy.

      by Judge Moonbox on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 06:54:24 PM PDT

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