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  •  Hot potato for everyone (none)
    Nobody knows how to fix the mess-o-potamia. Not Kerry (which explains his silence); certainly not Bush nor Alawi; not Putin with his own plan to seize whatever power wasn't already his in Russia.

    French president Chirac has it right when he said on Monday "we have opened a Pandora's box in Iraq that we are unable to close."

    The Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder just nodded. They remained silent.

    •  There's another aspect of how bad things (none)
      are getting: because of Beslan, and aside from his further centralizing power, Putin announced he is the second world leader to climb onto the "premptive strike" Bushwagon.
      •  Preemption proliferation (4.00)
        Israel's done it for years, but being already something of an outcast nation, it had no larger strategic impact.  With the US claiming the right to strike preemptively, now it gains international "legitimacy".  So we hear Putin asserting the right now.  India also has made noises about a right to "pre-emptive self-defense", which were part of the rhetoric in the last Subcontinent Staredown with Pakistan.  In Korea, Dear Leader clearly threatens it 24/7.  The sole superpower claims the right of preemptive attack, and because we're the sole superpower, the legitimacy of the concept can't be challenged.  But making preemptive strikes legitimate for one nation necessarily makes it legitimate for any nation bearing a grudge against a neighbor.

        I don't belong to any organized political party, I'm a Democrat--Will Rogers

        by Dancing Larry on Wed Sep 15, 2004 at 01:18:35 AM PDT

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        •  Exactly my point: (none)
          if you can do it, so can we.  (Sharon has been shoving that in Bushit's face.)

          And in view of the fact that you don't dare attack countries which have nukes, we gotta get nukes too.

        •  Preemption is simply first strike - nothing new (none)
          I oppose the Bush thesis that "preemption is a new doctrine for a new era."  It is old, old, old as warfare itself, and effective less than half the time.  The way Bush is practicing it, it is simply a first strike to prevent another state from growing powerful enough to threaten the US.  But, it is not a very effective policy, and my instinct says that it works less than half of the time.  Iraq is an example of an ineffective first strike policy, particularly so when the opponent is defined as terrorism.

          We no longer have the power to threaten any state with an invasion - maybe airstrikes, but not an invasion.

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