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  •  You are absolutely right (3+ / 0-)
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    Kidspeak, vox humana, Deep Harm

    This has been going on for over 50 years now. Organized psychology and psychiatry (and other medical professions, such as neurology) were deeply implicated in formation of the CIA's torture/brainwashing/mind control programs of the 1950s/1960s, MKULTRA.

    No U.S. doctor, psychologist, or other medical professional has ever been charged, to my knowledge, in the crimes and unethical behavior to which many, many of them were party.

    The CIA did settle out of court re a lawsuit in the 1990s against them for the Cameron "research". But otherwise, no accountability.

    (Please remember, though readers, that most of the psychologists you meet in common practice have nothing to do with these procedures. Indeed, many of them are ignorant of their existence. Like other health professionals, their lives are spent in clinical work with patients. Most of the psychologists mentioned here were research psychologists.)

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    by Valtin on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:36:27 PM PDT

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    •  Most (all) of the research psychologists I know (3+ / 0-)
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      would never be party to this behavior.  This isn't a problem of "research psychologists".  This is a problem of health care "professionals" who have no moral compass.  But that's mostly a problem with them as human beings, not with their professional identity.

      •  Thank you for correcting my statement (1+ / 0-)
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        PeterHug

        I only meant that most practicing health professionals are not involved in torture, but I fear the entire field will be destroyed by those within it that have followed the government's siren call.

        But, as the medical and psychological profession have not been able (or in some cases even willing) to stop this practice cold within their own discipline, I am losing hope even in my own peer group.

        War is the statesman's game, the priest's delight, The lawyer's jest, the hired assassin's trade Invictus

        by Valtin on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:55:08 PM PDT

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        •  It does seem like some sort of (1+ / 0-)
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          Gresham's Law wrt credibility is going to operate here.  And also with the United States' positions going forward on issues like human rights--if we don't somehow bring the people who have (i) done the actual dirty work, but more importantly (ii) created the intellectual, legal, and administrative framework for things like Guantanamo, we will never be able to speak on this issue again.

      •  I agree that's it's a "human being" problem (2+ / 0-)
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        PeterHug, Valtin

        But, in the examples I cited, I would think it is also a professional problem because the profession doesn't discipline abusers (typically clinical psychologists and psychiatrists) who do dirty work for retaliating government officials.  Activists I know say the APA refused to take a public stand in opposition to the government.

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