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  •  Video of Sands at the hearing (4+ / 0-)
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    Molly Ivins reply when asked about Obama, Her answer: "Yes, he should run. He's the only Democrat with any `Elvis' to him."

    by SmileySam on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:08:01 PM PDT

    •  Okay, let me try to give the American response. (1+ / 0-)
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      Goes something like this:
      We appreciate the U.K. as good friends who have stood next to us in world events. They are America's parents and we love them.  Unfortunately, they just don't understand today's world like we do.  When the U.K. tells us that their experience of torture wasn't productive, it is only because they didn't apply that torture as America does.  That is, America carries the authority of God behind its actions.  God is never wrong.  
      Your lessons are not our lessons, England.  America is blessed and, as such, is above such reproach.  Oh, and we call everything "a war".  War on terror, war on drugs, war on gas prices, war on education, war on abortion, war on...well, you get the point.  So take your soft talk and fall in--we're having a war on Iran.

      "I am here because of Ashley." - Unknown Obama supporter.

      by rainmanjr on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:07:00 PM PDT

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    •  while America has been at (3+ / 0-)
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      the forefront  of many great movements, the arrogance that as a country it is above any other, that it doesnt have to follow the same rules is sickening. Sands is on the mark, learn from the mistakes of others.
      Its been proven over and over agin that torture techniques dont actually work effectively, yet they are approved over and over, one has to question what monster holding the reigns has to gain from this? Why would anyone ever think its ok to torture?  
      Then we must ask....  Do we as a nation of tolerance and justice have the testicles to do something about it?
      To show the international community that we are not above any law, and that criminals get punished, no matter what level of government those criminals represent?

      One can only HOPE that we do.

      •  Sands sounds almost too civilized (0+ / 0-)

        when I let my feeling run free, but then I remember something I learned a long time ago. Unless we act differently than they did, we are no better than them. We won't find justice if we go searching for revenge.
        Sands has laid out the road map for us to follow.

        Molly Ivins reply when asked about Obama, Her answer: "Yes, he should run. He's the only Democrat with any `Elvis' to him."

        by SmileySam on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:12:20 PM PDT

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